On 6/13/22 14:36, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a >>
permissions wall. > > SHOW. US.
I got tired of fighting with it Greg, so I did install #32 and installed
gnome_desktop (that was new) and xfce4 during the install, and
now things including the screen colors are back to normal,
I've installed the brother printers and scanner drivers and I can modify t
them by the usual rules. I also set a root pw in addition to adding myself
to /etc/group in the appropriate places. I created an /sshnet tree with the
other 5 machines here, did a root chown -R me:me on that path and just now
mounted all of them as me, so I own the path to me on the other 5 machines.
And my working environment is getting close to completed, something
that only been workable occasionally since that last Seagate 2T drive
went tits down in the night last Dec 8th.
Kmail5 is buggier than road kill in June, but t-bird is more like
August, so
I'm looking for a mailer that actually works. tbirds sort filters don't,
and
they think everybody uses only html, so word wrap doesn't work So I'm
doing this by hand..
So my only instant question is when will the developers understand that
stuff that runs as a $USER, needs one of two changes, either a .conf file
someplace readable by the $USER that tells things like t-bird, running as
the user, can have write privs to /var/log, /or/ an entry in that *.conf so
logging can be done instead of just gobbling up the denial w/o bothering
to tell the user it can't open the log. Its trivial to fix logrotate to
service
the logs in /home/$USER/logs where there's no perms problem because
the $USER owns the whole path. Same perms story for heyu and nut,
but some somebody, thinking security as opposed to usability, insists
on building /dev/ttyUSB*, with 0600 perms. Neither nut, nor heyu can
get past that to get their job done. And IF I reset those two devices to
0777,
re reboot fixes that.
I must have asked 15 or 20 times in the last decade, how to fix this in
permanently in /lib/udev, and have been ignored when I ask that for
several years. Usability, letting a computer actually DO its job simply
isn't on the menu. With a record like that, can you blame me for being
frustrated? Frustrated by asking for advice so I do do it right, and being
ignored.
[...]
You're a goddamned 20+ year Linux veteran. You should be able to > handle
something as ridiculously simple as this.
I just did, but haven't changed the perms of /dev/ttyUSB* yet. Only so
much time in one 24 hour day. Up since 4:40 my time, by 20:00 I'm burned
out for the day.
Take care and stay well, Greg.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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