On 8/1/23 18:46, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 1:09 PM gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net <mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net>> wrote:

    On 8/1/23 11:03, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
     > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 2:40 AM Michael Kjörling
    <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net <mailto:2695bd53d...@ewoof.net>
     > <mailto:2695bd53d...@ewoof.net <mailto:2695bd53d...@ewoof.net>>>
    wrote:
     >
     >     On 31 Jul 2023 15:21 -0400, from songb...@anthive.com
    <mailto:songb...@anthive.com>
     >     <mailto:songb...@anthive.com <mailto:songb...@anthive.com>>
    (songbird):
     >      >   i do not run things for long when the power goes out
     >      > but the capacity for my needs is plenty and then i shut
     >      > down in an orderly fashion.  most of the time i shut down
     >      > the computer system and unplug the power cord and the
     >      > network cables and antenna cables if there is a storm
     >      > coming through - just out of the idea that i don't really
     >      > want things to get fried.
     >
    I replaced the original 60 amp service in 2008 with a 200, and brought
    this grandfathered 2970 house service up to code, doing all the
    internal
    work myself. I have a big ups running everything but the lights and
    printers in this room, got rid of the copper telephone because the
    cable
    was 70 years old, 50 pair paper insulated cable they would not keep
    working for a week at a time, so after 5 months of that I voted with my
    wallet and hooked all that up to the cable system. I must have done
    something right, I have not even blown a ccfl light bulb since and it
    all runs 24/7/365.25.


In your case then, you may need to pay attention to transients in your cabling plant. Everytime a large motor starts, revs or stops, those transients are hitting your cabling. My recollection is that you have machine tools in addition to electronics and climate control. Even more so then. Also grounding for your electrical system has to be proven over-adequate. And any possible ground-loops need to be found and remediated.

This is true also, but I am a C.E.T. and learned decades ago that electrical grounds ack the NEC are specced from their experience based on what works, and to wire logical circuits with a single bolt star ground. I do appreciate the concern, Nic. Call it evangelizing, whatever, but it does need an occasional sermon to the non-electrical types out there. I've long ago quit counting the number of electrical problems I have corrected, created by folks carrying Journeymen cards in their billfold. And STILL can't tell the diff between the Neutral and the static ground. I've long since given up trying to teach them about multiphase power. Most know enough to interchange any two wires feeding a 3 phase motor if it runs backwards. The "Why"+ it runs backwards is above their pay grade.

     > It's worth mentioning that with a good UPS you get
    power-conditioning,
     > not just filtering and over/under-voltage protection. That can
    extend
     > the lifetime of any electric motor or other device using the
    conditioned
     > power. The UPS emits a controlled waveform beyond what your
    utility can
     > provide.
     >
     > And numerous datacenters have begun using DC-powered racks. Less
    power
     > loss in the individual transformers and motors in each racked
    server,
     > less heat to be expelled.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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