On Fri, Sep 5, 2025 at 7:38 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > > > > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > On Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025 at 6:21 AM, Lee wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 7:41 PM David Wright wrote: > > > > > My posts are being dropped between my hosting's smarthost and debian-user. > > > > > > this one at least made it to my inbox > > > > > ----- Forwarded message from David Wright [email protected] ----- > > > > > > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2025 22:39:43 -0500 > > > From: David Wright > > > Subject: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > > On Sun 31 Aug 2025 at 17:08:47 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 3:15 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 04:24:59PM +0000, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En > > > > > Ming wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You mean Debian doesn't inform you if your OS needs an update? > > > > > > > > > > It is dependent on the desktop chosen. GNOME by default downloads > > > > > updates, and notifies you of them with a desktop notification. > > > > > > > > > > The package "apticron" for email notifications has also existed in > > > > > Debian for a decade or more though people still seem to enjoy > > > > > reinventing it on their own. > > > > > > > > Or perhaps it's that an email notification is useless for us and we > > > > want a notification that will actually be noticed. > > > > > > In my case it's that I want the packages downloaded at the same time. > > > And I think I've been doing that for longer than apticron has been > > > around—I see in my sent-mail folder a 2003 post to a LUG, exhorting > > > someone to put: > > > apt-get -qq update && apt-get -dqq dist-upgrade && apt-get -sqq upgrade > > > into their crontab, or perhaps their /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ (which seems > > > concordant with the age of the post). > > > > > > Nowadays my root crontabs have: > > > apt-get -qq -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/"; update && > > > apt-get -qq -d -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/"; > > > dist-upgrade && find /var/cache/apt/archives/ -name '*deb' > > > I occasionally find it useful to take a look inside new packages' > > > /usr/share/doc/ files to see what's changed. > > > > > > but doesn't dist-upgrade apply the updates? > > > > I just want to be notified about any updates that are available. I > > don't want them being applied until after I review them. > > Wouldn't it be very time consuming to review every single update before > applying them?
My "review" is very cursory - it's not like I'm reviewing source code changes. Mostly I wait a few days, looking for warning - for example: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2025/09/msg00108.html I'm coming from a cygwin + windows background where their track record of not breaking things with their updates is .. uhmm.. so much less than perfect that it's a really good idea to wait a bit before applying the latest updates. Regards, Lee
