On Wed, Jan 07, 2026 at 09:41:12AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > [email protected] wrote: > > As "AI harvesting" as we know it today is just yet another instance of > > capitalistic robbery, I'd be totally surprised if they hadn't yet > > "discovered" this valuable "resource" and weren't already at work > > strip-mining it. > > I would answer to an AI if it would openly ask for advise about a topic > where i feel apt to issue an opinion. Such a change in harvesting would > be beneficial for the web, because we could put Anubis et.al. back to > their graves if the mindless workload of AI harvesters on the public > web sites would ease.
I think the point is that the currently dominant "AI" shops aren't about facts. There's not much money in that. There is "money" (actually potential, speculative money) in dominating the place and pushing the others out of market. Thus in looking plausible and kind of "intelligent". > Yes, AI development is mainly driven by greed. But it cannot strip me > of my knowledge or convince me of its contemporary nonsense. > (I see in the web clueless attempts of AI to explain creation of > bootable ISOs. Obviously patchwork made from various mutually exclusive > ways to do it by xorriso.) I don't think "AI" developers have any interest whatsoever in (their critters) explaining correctly the creation of bootable ISOs. The managers holding the purse strings don't care very much one way or the other, usually. And can't actually discern right from wrong either (again, usually) anyway. > It would be better if AI had more clue and thus could be less > misleading. Of course there are AI owners who obviously strive for > gaining control over their human users' mind. I would be glad to see > other AIs fighting these attempts ... so we get smoothly into the > pampered and isolated state of the Spacers in Asimov's novel > "The Naked Sun". No, no. As much as I admire Asimov, it's more Harry G. Frankfurt [1] here. Sounding truthful is the aim for them, truth is just uninteresting. My hunch is that *if* LLM training is being done in mailing lists, the biggest surplus is in learning to imitate more complex human interactions. > Have a nice day :) Same to you, and all the best for the new year :) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit -- tomás > > Thomas >
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