On Mon 26 Jan 2026 at 10:02:36 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/01/2026 5:01 am, David wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 at 18:01, D. R. Evans wrote: > > > > > > As the attempt to get everything working without using grub rescue seems > > > to be stalled (see my e-mail > > > <[email protected]> in another sub-thread), > > > > If you want to reference other list messages, can you please do that by > > providing links into the list archive which can be found at for example: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2026/01/threads.html > > David, if you wish to open that message in a browser then you may > easily do it: > > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/?m=MESSAGE_ID > > Actually every message has a bit broken header with a link to the list > archive, see List-Archive. > > Having Message-ID, it is more convenient to open that message inside > mailer or in another web mailing list archive. Instead, your are > suggesting to use a link that is local to the lists.debian.org web > site. > > There is even "mid:" URL scheme to make Message-ID links explicit.
I always use the List Archive format, https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/03/msg00022.html for a few reasons: It's short and manageable, and doesn't have unusual characters, it's easy to see typos, and it gives an idea of how up-to-date or ancient the reference is. Some Message-ID references are very long, anything up to about 160 characters, and are not easy to check when cut and pasted into a browser due to their random nature. But the main reason is List Archive formats /always work/, whereas Message-ID ones occasionally fail, and that is very frustrating. (You'll see the reason below.) Example: try and find the reference above by means of its Message-ID: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/Y/+tJdQluFDMC4Ci@use or any of these not-quite-random messages from some of our frequent contributors, who might recognise their domains: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/YC/JJ2xt1K9aK/[email protected] https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/Yg/[email protected] https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/ZPJmz/[email protected] https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/Zw/[email protected] https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/aTvGPLkp3WK1/[email protected] https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/aXIoyejZ/[email protected] Cheers, David.
