On Thu 29 Jan 2026 at 16:46:40 (-0000), Bigsy Bohr wrote:
> On 2026-01-28, D. R. Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > OK... on the basis of the fact that you expected USB boot to work, I just 
> > went 
> > and spent some time messing with the boot options, and found a way to make 
> > it 
> > work. What I had not realised was that it was not enough to select 
> > "USB-HDD" 
> > from the BIOS list, but I also had to then go and look at the hard drive 
> > boot 
> > order, where a new entry had appeared (at a low priority). Once I saw that 
> > and 
> > changed its priority so that it was the preferred boot device, the machine 
> > booted fine from the USB drive.
> >
> > All this, I'm sure, is very elementary stuff... but if one has never 
> > encountered it before, as I have not, none of it was obvious.
> 
> In fact, that's not my experience with an old and buggy BIOS. There's a
> preferred boot order; it looks first for a hard disk, then for an optical
> device, failing that a USB dongle, etc. That order can be altered, which
> is logical.

Your experience relates to BIOSes similar to those in standard Intel
desktop mobos (like Rhinestone/Endeavour/Atlanta/Tucson/Seattle)
that I've used in the past, or all the Dells I've used since:
a neat list of potential targets, in order, and even telling you
nowadays which are present and which not.

But the OP's priority-promotion behaviour is quite normal for, say,
a PhoenixBIOS. It's just a shame that the OP hadn't discovered that
when the machine was first obtained (and could be expected to work
to spec or have a manual, or whatever).

With the PhoenixBIOS in particular, there are other undocumented
wrinkles too. Any indication that the machine /can/ boot from USB
depends on your having inserted a stick before you turn it on.
IOW you can navigate all around the BIOS menus with no whisper
of the term USB.

Worse, the same is true if you boot /with/ a USB stick inserted. You
have to /know/ to navigate to Hard Drive and press Enter in order to
see the first mention of "USB".

Worse still, you get false negatives: not every USB stick will work
from a stack of sticks, even when identical images are installed on
them all. And those that work may not work in every USB socket—
particularly on laptops, where they're scattered about the mobo
and might have different specs.

Any lack of success (bad stick or absence) will reset the BIOS,
erasing any trace in the BIOS that USB booting had been possible.

All of the above can be demonstrated by my Acer Travelmate 3201xci.

Cheers,
David.

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