Andy Smith <[email protected]> writes: > Hi, > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 04:53:27PM +0900, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: >> Andy Smith <[email protected]> writes: >> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2026 at 09:42:13PM +0900, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: >> >> All roads lead to Rome(Gmail). >> > >> > This kind of thing is why no matter how bad gmail is, or how >> > self-centred their decisions are, we all have to go along with it. >> > Because if one of my users can't email someone at gmail it must be my >> > fault, right? It's the best free email service in the world and all >> > roads lead to gmail, after all. >> >> Andy, i deeply empathize with your story. Even so, i am also in a >> situation where i cannot escape Gmail in real life. > > I don't want to harp on this but the sort of thing I'm trying to point > out is that for example over on the mailop mailing list you are > participating in this thread even today: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg26412.html > > (I'm not stalking you; we're both subscribers! 😀) > > where an admin with a 1,400 subscriber Mailman mailing list that they > have been operating for years is at their wits' end trying to get mail > to their gmail.com subscribers. > > Meanwhile you are also on *this* mailing list telling everyone that > gmail is the best email service provider. > > All participants in mailop should be aware by now that gmail > consistently provides the most difficulty, the most aggravation, and the > least assistance to small senders, where "small" is something like "less > than 5k emails per day". It is a black box for them/us. If we've > followed all their (arbitrary) rules and still our users lose mails, > there is no way forward for us. > > I know it's not the best because other ESPs do not give me and others > anywhere near as much of a problem, and I am surprised to see anyone > with actual knowledge of the sender side claim otherwise. >
Hellow Andy! I read all of your email. That is all true. You are right. Thanks for comments. You are nice guy. So i would like to re-write my thoughts as below: s/gmail is best free email service/i like gmail for free service/g PS. Fastmail is good for paid service, still i think. Sincerley, Byunghee -- ^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//
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