On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 07:08:04 +0000
Andy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:


> 
> What does:
> 
> dig +trace -x 82.195.75.100 @192.168.71.8
> 
> output?
> 
> It will show you each step of the recursive resolving.
> 
> Do note that part of this recursion uses DNSSEC. If validation fails
> for some reason then SERVFAIL is the usual outcome. BIND9 as a
> resolver does do DNSSEC validation by default, whereas your ISP
> router's resolver probably does not. So your DNSSEC validation setup
> may be iffy.

joe@jrenewsid:~$ sudo dig +trace -x 82.195.75.100 @192.168.71.8

; <<>> DiG 9.20.24-1+b1-Debian <<>> +trace -x 82.195.75.100
@192.168.71.8 ;; global options: +cmd
468193  IN      NS l.root-servers.net. .
468193  IN NS   d.root-servers.net. .
468193 IN       NS      f.root-servers.net. .
468193  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net. .
468193  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net. .
468193  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
468193  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net. .
468193  IN NS   e.root-servers.net. .
468193 IN       NS      m.root-servers.net. .
468193  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net. .
468193  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net. .
468193  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
.468193 IN      NSk.root-servers.net. .                 
468193  IN      RRSIG   NS 8 0 518400 20260727190000
20260714180000 57780 .
1qLr5dmWdIvW7LA3BF+R/+O4gdMyZot2CdXC6TFDc9mq+pwbXvnFBeg X
uR1pqR2ZUvWQm6Sgnbyra0BobPh+uAY0fZVfX6HvNZxeLDIkRNuz0qow
0NTBiu7dM122k+l66s6u6mIn0ApAmUloJs4k1b5qhNXnfLCufvcxmSJk
LmebGMJAumT1F608zvuxOaZ7tcTE5Puios6H/fB rR2aXWxXiewYqfj98
gzeZ42jKjYYJMiz8P6QK5iOFN37a4ARqFFiIG8OPXPQJ31jOTN9v38h8
ApvHVEpexuV/WsVbKWiXGoxUmxynv1/bSV71UnbBEEeRDFPgkaKVSXul /ZouAw== 
;; Received 1137 bytes from 192.168.71.8#53(192.168.71.8) in 4 ms

;; UDP setup with 2001:500:a8::e#53(2001:500:a8::e) for
100.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. failed: network unreachable. 
;; no servers could be reached 
;; UDP setup with 2001:500:a8::e#53(2001:500:a8::e) for
100.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. failed: network unreachable. 
;; no servers could be reached 
;; UDP setup with 2001:500:a8::e#53(2001:500:a8::e) for
100.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. failed: network unreachable. 
;; UDP setup with 2001:500:a8::e#53(2001:500:a8::e) for
100.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. failed: network unreachable.
in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN NS a.in-addr-servers.arpa.
in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN NS e.in-addr-servers.arpa. 
in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN NS c.in-addr-servers.arpa.
in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN NS d.in-addr-servers.arpa. 
in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN NS b.in-addr-servers.arpa.
in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN NS f.in-addr-servers.arpa. 
in-addr.arpa.   86400 IN DS     47054 8 2
5CAFCCEC201D1933B4C9F6A9C8F51E51F3B39979058AC21B8DF1B1F2 81CBC6F2
in-addr.arpa.           86400   IN      DS      54956 8 2
E0E2BF5CFBD66572CA05EC18267D91509BA6A9405AF05C3FD4141DFA 45200C08
in-addr.arpa.           86400   IN      DS      53696 8 2
13E5501C56B20394DA921B51412D48B7089C5EB6957A7C58553C4D4D 424F04DF
in-addr.arpa.           86400   IN      DS      63982 8 2
AAF4FB5D213EF25AE44679032EBE3514C487D7ABD99D7F5FEC3383D0 30733C73
in-addr.arpa.           86400   IN      RRSIG   DS 8 2
86400 20260727180000 20260714170000 39561 arpa.
ggoV/lumzdcvYdHm0Pm1nFSsHMBUEIYLd1kZHfIk9cD9sRadr9na iJb0
6nuPbt2UaW64gZvBs1OjCGmSM/gwVTdJj3gtOMdyXaxwb0ebYwhrrzBf
ckDVLwkZd3wKfs/Ym6gb1zrrNPCNyNQKpXkhsLnukCx4TG2YIBxuH0KR
1cg7fyrZ63kLKmIks4dCmNUUV76u9OnrCQcW 05qSvsgopIOfoHjhlq1H
KxfpdVPJwPMGnFBIHhtYGEimYt4W5CKBQ5RCd6rEJQ5IE+Vn0mH8oWbL
E9SdMJ5rbN7144vh0rHeHdGhu9tM6FmOvsg15k5q6BiGyQy29RagK7OX BVFsmA== ;;
Received 943 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 16 ms

;; UDP setup with 2001:43f8:110::10#53(2001:43f8:110::10) for
100.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. failed: network unreachable.
82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS ns3.lacnic.net.
82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS    ns3.afrinic.net.
82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS    ns4.apnic.net.
82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS    pri.authdns.ripe.net.
82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS    rirns.arin.net.
82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN DS    64189 13 2
C1D0F2EB646A851553495E12567C265C5DB9811C61C822DA5C5BD6A6 7F38C2B4
82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN       RRSIG   DS 8 3
86400 20260801224726 20260712091556 31765 in-addr.arpa.
IfRj517uDX81sM2h0alT+sxvuypq7XJVMmTbAoVpnUEc CJ1h1LLLluyJ
EWm4NxMn3G4UyQ24/Pn8AzD4FQcUJD/Z8RuI1DavhcvVxTZehvIxhcSW
3AUjmiVuT4xMdzfL9hcnN6d9ntuKjJLRsGnl6n3hAK7y/tcRsYIG8TFN hdI= ;;
Received 409 bytes from 193.0.9.1#53(f.in-addr-servers.arpa) in 8 ms

75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS ns2.man-da.de.
75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS ns3.man-da.de.
75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS ns1.man-da.de.
75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 3600  IN DS 57319 13 2
03644989133634C2E95982379AA9C243FE48125F67AC7039BF0E4B1B 82477E22
75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 3600  IN RRSIG  DS 13
5 3600 20260727095121 20260713082121 64189 82.in-addr.arpa.
ppXKEizvrNkimlP6xhfuVBNgGVLQ2UqBPNHe7NiTL DI2849NOsXnehYo
zUn34MRuGqzp1WZoaHzDIuxlCFQCtA== 
;; Received 305 bytes from 202.12.31.53#53(ns4.apnic.net) in 216 ms

;; Connection to 2001:4c80:0:7f1::249#53(2001:4c80:0:7f1::249) for
100.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. failed: network unreachable. 
;; Connection to 2001:41b8:0:18::10#53(2001:41b8:0:18::10) for
100.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. failed: network unreachable.
100.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN CNAME
  100.64-26.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 
100.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 3600
IN      RRSIG   CNAME 13 6 3600 20260725072209 20260711055209
25684 75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. e7FvHXk4Bqz9JLxenWVC4CDMZCj5wsD
NfqrAD1Au67FcttQtcJJQGwZi YnyXONXn2HfYMcAvw8wOT4VjMWi0Fw==
64-26.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN   NS      rns1.debian.org.
64-26.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN   NS      rns2.debian.com.
64-26.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN   NS      rns3.debian.org.
64-26.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN   NS      rns4.debian.com.
lp0k9coo0o6pt6r38q4jtplcdsuf9tai.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN
NSEC3   1 0 0 - LU919LMT93UQJRQO6A2ETA4E84SMOAQ0 NS
lp0k9coo0o6pt6r38q4jtplcdsuf9tai.75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN
RRSIG   NSEC3 13 6 86400 20260725072209 20260711055209 25684
75.195.82.in-addr.arpa. yFEvhq
OdRcFNZ8eDHY0MQ1DOYEOoNqqJ0z1wQUzRYjB1f2dOrw4mhNQl
fgtWoKmxj0fpd/ORnKANNEDllwux7g== ;; Received 511 bytes from
82.195.66.249#53(ns1.man-da.de) in 28 ms



Success despite some problems on the way.
> 
> Anything in bind9's logs?

Nothing, with trace used. Without it:

Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'pri.authdns.ripe.net/A/IN': 2001:dd8:12::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'pri.authdns.ripe.net/A/IN': 2620:38:2000::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'pri.authdns.ripe.net/AAAA/IN': 2620:38:2000::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'ns3.lacnic.net/A/IN': 2001:13c7:7002:3000::10#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'ns3.lacnic.net/AAAA/IN': 2001:13c7:7002:3000::10#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'195.82.in-addr.arpa/NS/IN': 2620:38:2000::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'ns3.lacnic.net/A/IN': 2001:dd8:12::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1
named[3722]: network unreachable resolving 'ns3.lacnic.net/AAAA/IN':
2620:38:2000::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network
unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/A/IN': 2801:1b8:10::b#53 Jul 15
11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN': 2801:1b8:10::b#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1
named[3722]: network unreachable resolving 'ns3.lacnic.net/A/IN':
2620:38:2000::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network
unreachable resolving 'ns3.lacnic.net/AAAA/IN':
2001:13c7:7002:3000::11#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]:
network unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/A/IN': 2001:7fe::53#53 Jul
15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN': 2001:7fe::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1
named[3722]: network unreachable resolving 'ns3.lacnic.net/A/IN':
2001:13c7:7002:3000::11#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]:
network unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/A/IN':
2001:503:c27::2:30#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network
unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN': 2001:503:c27::2:30#53 Jul
15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a.lactld.org/A/IN': 2001:500:2f::f#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1
named[3722]: network unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN':
2001:500:2f::f#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network
unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/A/IN': 2001:500:9f::42#53 Jul 15
11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN': 2001:500:9f::42#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1
named[3722]: network unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/A/IN':
2001:dc3::35#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network
unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN': 2001:dc3::35#53 Jul 15
11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a.lactld.org/A/IN': 2001:503:ba3e::2:30#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1
named[3722]: network unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN':
2001:503:ba3e::2:30#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network
unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/A/IN': 2001:7fd::1#53 Jul 15
11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN': 2001:7fd::1#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1
named[3722]: network unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/A/IN':
2001:500:12::d0d#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network
unreachable resolving '75.195.82.in-addr.arpa/NS/IN':
2a13:27c0:30::5#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network
unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN': 2001:500:12::d0d#53 Jul
15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a.lactld.org/A/IN': 2001:500:1::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1
named[3722]: network unreachable resolving 'a.lactld.org/AAAA/IN':
2001:500:1::53#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network
unreachable resolving 'a2.org.afilias-nst.info/A/IN': 2001:7fd::1#53
Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a0.org.afilias-nst.info/A/IN': 2001:7fd::1#53 Jul 15 11:35:09 piserve1
named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a2.org.afilias-nst.info/A/IN': 2001:500:9f::42#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a2.org.afilias-nst.info/AAAA/IN': 2001:500:9f::42#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a0.org.afilias-nst.info/A/IN': 2001:500:9f::42#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a0.org.afilias-nst.info/AAAA/IN': 2001:500:9f::42#53 Jul 15 11:35:09
piserve1 named[3722]: network unreachable resolving
'a.lactld.org/A/IN': 2001:500:48::1#53


Presumably the router is forwarding to the ISP's master caching DNS
server, which isn't having problems. But it looks as if the trouble is
outside my network, and there's nothing I can do to fix it without
forwarding to the ISP's server myself. I don't like using router DNS,
once I had some trouble sending email to a few people which turned out
to be the router not finding an MX record for a few domains. Since then
I've used root hints. I still don't understand why I had no trouble
with (presumably an older) BIND9 on the Microserver.

Maybe a clue: my ISP doesn't yet do IPv6, though I can't see why that
should affect a DNS enquiry for an IPv4 address. 

-- 
Joe

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