On 2026-09-19 20:41:06 +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 18.09.26 um 14:30 schrieb Vincent Lefevre:
> > On 2026-09-17 10:22:24 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > > My point is that, reporting a bug, you should avoid non-essential steps to
> > > reproduce it. More generic configuration that is closer to defaults means
> > > that the scope of the issue is wider. It require less efforts to try and 
> > > to
> > > create debug environment. In this thread you see that mention of disabled
> > > IPv6 may insult people. Reaction of developers might be similar.
> > 
> > "mention of disabled IPv6 may insult people"???
> 
> No, but it is a rather uncommon situation.

What is actually uncommon is a network with unsupported IPv6
and DNS servers that often return SERVFAIL.

In any case, I don't see why IPv6 support in the kernel matters
for nscd. I don't see any reason why nscd would do an IPv6
connection; that's useless for name resolving.

> Then you cannot reasonably open a bug report - because the developers will
> ask you to do such test. Set up a test environment (e.g. Virtualbox) and
> track the issue down.

Developers could (should) do their own tests: testing the behavior
of nscd with an initial SERVFAIL for IPv4 and a valid IPv6 address
(or the reverse).

> > I was not aware of how nscd worked at the time of the bug report.
> > The nscd(8) man page is ridiculously uninformative. Developers
> > should do their work first.
> 
> It is simply a cache for requests using the libc functions. Be aware that
> the libc stuff is different in Linux/BSD/UNIX, so you may find information
> that does not apply to the Linux implementation.

I was just asking for the cache specification for nscd.

> > BTW, I've just found that the French (and much older) version is much
> > more informative: http://manpagesfr.free.fr/man/man8/nscd.8.html
> 
> That doesn't say from which distribution it came (at

I suppose that this corresponds to upstream.

Or does the nscd(8) man page depend on the distribution?

> > > When possible, use standard tools like getent instead of custom
> > > programs or scripts.
> > 
> > getent does *not* work in the same way. In particular, in the test,
> > I got an exit status 2 in each case while IP addresses were available
> > in each case (e.g. with getaddrinfo). And no error messages at all.
> > That's very unhelpful.
> 
> Can you give a test case?

Already given, with results, in <[email protected]>
(Sun, 13 Sep 2026 02:35:49 +0200). This is:

#!/bin/sh
getent ahostsv4 $1 || echo "Error: $?"
getent ahostsv6 $1 || echo "Error: $?"
getent ahosts $1 || echo "Error: $?"

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