On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 01:25:44PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1
Well, i think we are going to have too many options on that ballot, i think we should do some rationalizing at some point, and keep only a few which will represent most opinions, and work on polishing their wordings instead of everyone proposing their pet proposal. > Here is my (slightly rushed) write-up of a non-free-hw compromise > option. Please second it if you think it should appear on the vote. > > This amendment to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> removes > the rationale and "therefore", replaces "authors" in point 2 with > "licensors", removes point 3, and replaces point 4 with "as a special > exception to help users who have vital hardware without free software > drivers yet, the Debian system and official CD images may include > hardware support packages from the admin section of the non-free archive > area which conform to all Debian Free Software Guidelines except > guideline 2 (Source Code), or an archive section/area with equivalent > requirements." > > So, the full position statement proposed is: > ======================================================================== > > THE DEBIAN PROJECT: > 1. reaffirms its dedication to providing a 100% free system to > our users according to our Social Contract and the DFSG; and > 2. encourages licensors of all works to make those works > available not only under licenses that permit modification, but also in > forms that make such modifications practical; and > 3. as a special exception to help users who have vital hardware > without free software drivers yet, the Debian system and official CD > images may include hardware-support packages from the admin section of > the non-free archive area which conform to all Debian Free Software > Guidelines except guideline 2 (Source Code), or an archive section/area > with equivalent requirements. > ======================================================================== Why do you mention the admin section of the non-free archive ? I mean, sections are mostly obsolet with the new pool structure, and it is not clear what is meant here. If this is clarified, i would second your proposal. > Personal rationale: > > - - I'm not giving a full rationale here because this has been discussed > in extreme depth already and we're voting for a policy more than its > rationale. For what it's worth, I wrote this proposal after > http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/08/msg00123.html and > http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/09/msg00010.html and my notes > from -vote are http://mjr.towers.org.uk/blog/2006/debian#dfsgwaiving > > - - this neither supports nor reverses the decision of the Release Team > about works such as images, video, and fonts. I don't think that the > two issues should be combined: no videos seem as vital as firmware for > installation. This GR should neither promote that decision to policy, > nor override it. > > - - this tries to specify a compromise for hardware support in a way that > /could/ be done today by moving linux-* to non-free (but I hope that > isn't what happens) while trying to leave most of the implementation > decisions to the relevant maintainers and delegates. I hope that it's > some sort of split between main and a new non-free-hw, but who knows? Notice that the split to non-free will no more happen for etch, i think it is doubtful that any other issue will come of those GRs. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
