Hi,

I'd like to offer another perspective, namely that of a non-native
English speaker.

For me, LLMs have not replaced thinking; they have lowered the language
barrier to participating in Debian discussions. Before I used them as a
writing aid, I was often reluctant to engage in lengthy policy or
technical debates because I knew how much time and effort it would take
to express my thoughts clearly in English. Meanwhile, native speakers -
and others with stronger writing and debating skills - could often
formulate precise rebuttals much more easily. As a result, I frequently
chose not to participate, even when I felt I had something worthwhile to
contribute.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 04:25:32PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> 
> REQUIREMENTS (SUPPLEMENT TO THE CODE OF CONDUCT)
> 
> 4. Within Debian, messages to humans (including for example bug
>    reports, mailing list messages, discussions on Salsa, and blog
>    posts on Planet Debian) must be drafted solely by humans without
>    LLM assistance.

…

> 8. Any contributor who feels they cannot write in English without
>    assistance, may write in their native language, and expect readers
>    to use translation tools of their choice.  In that case a
>    human-written English summary would be very welcome but is not
>    required.  In any case we promise not to shame anyone for any
>    linguistic mistakes.
> 
> - ->8- END PROPOSAL

I am not convinced by requirement (4).

Debian is an international project. Many contributors, myself included,
are not native English speakers. Participating effectively on Debian
mailing lists often requires not only technical expertise but also the
ability to write well-structured, precise, and persuasive English.

Native speakers, especially those who are highly experienced writers and
debaters, already have a significant advantage. They can express subtle
distinctions, spot ambiguities, and formulate rebuttals much more easily
than many non-native speakers. That is nobody's fault, but it is a real
asymmetry.

For me, using an LLM to help structure my own thoughts, improve the flow
of an argument, or suggest clearer wording is fundamentally different
from asking it to generate my opinions or write a message on my behalf.
The ideas, reasoning and conclusions remain my own; the tool merely
helps me communicate them more effectively.  The LLM helps me express my
arguments; it does not determine what those arguments are.

Requirement (8) does not provide an equivalent alternative. Debian's
common working language is English, and participating directly in that
language is important for effective discussion. Being told that I may
instead write in my native language shifts the burden of translation
onto every reader, makes interactive discussion more cumbersome, and
risks losing precisely the nuances that matter in policy discussions. I
do not want to avoid communicating in English; I want to communicate my
own ideas in English as effectively as I can.  The practical consequence
of requirement (8) for me would not be that I start writing in German.
It is that I would likely participate less often.

Requirement (4) does not distinguish between delegating authorship to an
LLM and using an LLM as a language or writing assistant. A blanket
prohibition on any LLM assistance for communication would therefore make
it harder for contributors like me to participate on equal terms in
technical and policy discussions. Those least affected are often native
speakers with an excellent command of written English, while the burden
falls disproportionately on international contributors.

If the concern is authenticity of communication, then the resolution
should target substantive AI-generated content or undisclosed delegation
of authorship, rather than banning all forms of language assistance.

I believe there is an important distinction between using an LLM as the
author of a message and using it as a writing assistant for ideas that
are entirely one's own. Requirement (4) currently treats both cases
identically. If the goal is to preserve authentic human communication, I
believe the resolution should target delegated authorship rather than
all forms of language assistance.

--
tobi

P.S.: In the interest of transparency: I used an LLM to help structure
this message and improve its English. The opinions and arguments are my
own.

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