On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 10:40:02AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
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everyone please read the full mail again. and again. and still 
I will quote the most important paragraphs:
 
> I don't have a concern with the LLM _technology_ as such: it's just maths and 
> enough training material, which outputs a very large set of numbers that we 
> can use to infer new material from existing material. But I am firmly of the 
> camp that says we cannot talk about the LLM technology without talking about 
> who is pushing for its usage, who is doing the training and how, what effect 
> those have on our limited resources, and what are the economical and 
> political 
> motives of these.
> 
> And so I object to reducing the "ecological" discussion to just a "it's not 
> that bad, $duration of LLM agent usage is the same as buying a pair of 
> jeans", 
> because I think that type of argument is either ill-advised, or in bad faith.

<3 thank you soo much, Didier!

& adding some words to the pad to be turned into another proposal :)


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