Thank you for giving me some things to check. I installed and ran Memtest86+ with no errors.
I had been asking on the Debian User Forums. I guess I should try the Debian User list. I've been using Debian 20+ years without such a persistent issue. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Monday, March 24th, 2025 at 11:56 AM, Kirkham, George <[email protected]> wrote: > W. Pepperdine, > > Debian User list might be the best place for raising your issue. I tried to > find your post in Debian User but was not able to, which might be why people > did not respond. > > If it helps, I use XFCE on Debian bookwork myself without any issues (and > have a number of PCs running KDE too). I really like XFCE. I do not have the > issues you mention. Maybe this can give you hope that Debian XFCE should work > well. > > I would assume that if you run the below command from a terminal as root, it > will display an Intel GPU is being used? > # lspci -k | grep -A 2 -E '(3D|VGA)' > > While not particularly powerful I have found the Intel GPUs that are within > i5 and i7 processors to work effectively and are well supported in Linux > thanks to Intel's video driver. > > If you are doing a standard Debian Bookworm installation, then sadly I > suspect that your M920q has a hardware fault. I am only guessing but maybe > memory? Maybe CPU. > > After looking up the M920q I assume it does not have a slot for adding a > Video Card, but relies on the internal GPU of the CPU. Not that this should > cause an issue. I have used the Internal GPU on Intel CPUs before, and for > XFCE/LightDM too. > > I find this command useful for checking the display manager. > $ env | grep -E -i 'x11|xorg|wayland|plasma' > > You could try Gnome or KDE instead of XFCE, but I doubt they will work any > better. > > Maybe you can test memory by installing Memtest86+ and rebooting to select > and run Memtest86+. I cannot recall clearly, but I think I had issues being > able to do this due to UEFI? > > Maybe the free version from memtest86's web site will work? Install it to a > bootable USB memory drive. > https://www.memtest86.com/ > > I do no think my comments help that much, I hope you find a solution. > > George > > > https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/p/desktops/thinkcentre/m-series-tiny/thinkcentre-m920q/11tc1mtm92q > Sorry, ThinkCentre M920 Tiny - 9th Gen Intel is no longer available. > > https://www.servethehome.com/lenovo-thinkcentre-m920-and-m920q-tiny-guide-and-review/ > > For our $475, we received a node with an Intel Core i5-9600T CPU, a 16GB > SODIMM for RAM, and a 256GB NVMe SSD. > > https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/191051/intel-core-i59600t-processor-9m-cache-up-to-3-90-ghz/specifications.html > > Processor Number i5-9600T > GPU Name Intel® UHD Graphics 630 > > > On Monday, 24-03-2025 at 13:21 W. Pepperdine wrote: > > > It is a new Lenovo ThinkCentre M90q Tiny. I first installed Trixie, had > > this and other problems, so reinstalled with Bookworm. Just the freezing > > problem now. Asked about this on the Debian User Forum but no solution. > > > > On Sunday, March 23rd, 2025 at 6:34 PM, Kirkham, George > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have had similar issues when the motherboard and/or video card was > > > faulty. > > > > > > What video device does your computer have? AMD, Nvidia, Intel ? And what > > > model? > > > > > > Is the device a desktop or a laptop? Are you able to try a different > > > video card? > > > > > > Are you installing Debian Bookworm, or Trixie, or something else? > > > > > > George. > > > > > > On Monday, 24-03-2025 at 11:46 W. Pepperdine wrote: > > > > > > > My fresh install of Debian XFCE freezes around the login screen about > > > > half the time. I think the problem may be with lightdm. > > > > > > > > On a freeze, the screen is not updated, mouse and keyboard actions are > > > > not registered, and there seems to be no activity at the USB ports. The > > > > only thing to do is force shutdown with the power button. > > > > > > > > The freeze happens either just before, during, or just after the login > > > > screen. I have not been able to reliably cause the freeze. The > > > > xession-errors file and the systemctl output don't seem to capture the > > > > event. > > > > What can I do to confirm if lightdm is the problem, and what to do if > > > > it is?
