Scott,

>> It's possible that there is a per-user or per-domain configuration that
doesn't include the WEIGHT8 or WEIGHT10 test <<

My declude folder only contains 5 directories:

- AJProPercussion.com
- HotelsAtHome.com
- TelemetricsInc.com
- WebsterWatch.com
- ZonePerfect.com

I don't have any per-user configurations.


I know you checked your log files - but I can honestly say - the weighting
arithmetic is totally arbitrary.  Here are BADHEADER/SPAMHEADER combinations
that are literally minutes apart - and THREE different results and NONE of
them is the correct figure.  Only ONE of them is for a domain name that has
it's custom $default$.Junkmail file.


11/06/2001 02:26:10 Q908f3fc Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was sent
from a broken mail client [c0200201].).
11/06/2001 02:26:10 Q908f3fc Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers
consistent with spam [c0200201].).
11/06/2001 02:26:10 Q908f3fc Subject: ujdrh
11/06/2001 02:26:10 Q908f3fc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

NO WEIGHT triggered!

11/06/2001 02:28:17 Q910d3ea Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was sent
from a broken mail client [c0204200].).
11/06/2001 02:28:17 Q910d3ea Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers
consistent with spam [c0204200].).
11/06/2001 02:28:17 Q910d3ea Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 12 exceeds the
limit of 10.).
11/06/2001 02:28:17 Q910d3ea Msg failed WEIGHT8 (Weight of 12 exceeds the
limit of 8.).
11/06/2001 02:28:17 Q910d3ea Subject: Are you in debt?
[io8yz]
11/06/2001 02:28:17 Q910d3ea From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

WEIGHT 12 calculated (should be 8)

11/06/2001 02:56:42 Q97b730a Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was sent
from a broken mail client [c0400202].).
11/06/2001 02:56:42 Q97b730a Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has headers
consistent with spam [c0400202].).
11/06/2001 02:56:42 Q97b730a Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 11 exceeds the
limit of 10.).
11/06/2001 02:56:42 Q97b730a Msg failed WEIGHT8 (Weight of 11 exceeds the
limit of 8.).
11/06/2001 02:56:42 Q97b730a Subject: WARNING: PROTECT YOUR NAME IN CANADA
11/06/2001 02:56:42 Q97b730a From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

WEIGHT 11 calculated (should still be 8)


The /Declude/Config.cfg file contains:

...
BADHEADERS      badheaders      x       x       5       0
SPAMHEADERS     spamheaders     x       x       3       0
SPAMROUTING     spamrouting     x       x       4       0
REVDNS  revdnsexists    x       x       5       0
...
WEIGHT10        weight          x       x       10      0
WEIGHT8         weight          x       x       8       0
...
BADHEADERS              WARN
SPAMHEADERS             WARN
SPAMROUTING             WARN
REVDNS          WARN
PERCENT         HOLD

Could the OUTBOUND settings in Config.cfg cause the problem?


Here is the /Declude/$Default$.JunkMail file:

RBL             BOUNCE
DUL             BOUNCE
RSS             BOUNCE
OSDUL           BOUNCE
OSSOFT  BOUNCE
ORDB            BOUNCE
WEIGHT10        BOUNCE
WEIGHT8 SUBJECT SPAM: [See Headers]
REVDNS  ALERT



Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 03:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 1.28 - Weighting not Working?



>Given this CONFIG File:
>
>BADHEADERS      badheaders      x       x       5       0
>SPAMHEADERS     spamheaders     x       x       3       0
>SPAMROUTING     spamrouting     x       x       4       0
>REVDNS          revdnsexists    x       x       5       0
>HEUR10          heuristics      10      x       4       0
>HEUR9           heuristics      9       x       4       0
>HEUR8           heuristics      8       x       3       0
>HEUR            heuristics
>
>WEIGHT10        weight          x       x       10      0
>WEIGHT8         weight          x       x       8       0
>
>why doesn't the second log entry report that weight8 and/or weight10 has
>been exceeded?
>
>11/04/2001 03:39:42 Qfec315c Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has header
s
>consistent with spam [60000303].).
>11/04/2001 03:39:42 Qfec315c Msg failed SPAMROUTING (This E-mail was routed
>in a poor manner consistent with spam [60000303].).
>11/04/2001 03:39:42 Qfec315c Msg failed REVDNS (This E-mail was sent from a
>mail server with no reverse DNS entry.).

It should.  It's possible that there is a per-user or per-domain
configuration that doesn't include the WEIGHT8 or WEIGHT10 test, which
would account for this.  Note that the WEIGHT8/WEIGHT10 tests will only get
displayed in the log if they are being used for that E-mail.

 > Here's the opposite problem - when *I* add up the weight, only get 14 -
but
 > the log claims a value of 18. How does this compute?
 > ORDB ip4r relays.ordb.org *
 > SPAMCOP ip4r bl.spamcop.net 127.0.0.2 7 0
 > ...
 > BADHEADERS badheaders x x 5 0
 > SPAMHEADERS spamheaders x x 3 0
 > SPAMROUTING spamrouting x x 4 0
 > ...
 > WEIGHT10 weight x x 10 0
 > WEIGHT8 weight x x 8 0

 > 11/04/2001 03:57:02 Q02d5274 Msg failed ORDB (Blackholed by ORDB -- see
 > http://ordb.org/lookup/?host=200.190.82.26).
 > 11/04/2001 03:57:02 Q02d5274 Msg failed SPAMCOP (Blocked - see
 > http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?200.190.82.26).
 > 11/04/2001 03:57:02 Q02d5274 Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has
headers
 > consistent with spam [60000303].).
 > 11/04/2001 03:57:02 Q02d5274 Msg failed SPAMROUTING (This E-mail was
routed
 > in a poor manner consistent with spam [60000303].).

I also count 14 for this one.  The next release will include a line that
shows exactly how the value is calculated.  Every one I've checked here has
added up correctly, but the new log file entry will show what Declude is
thinking.
                                                            -Scott

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