Tom et al,

I really like this approach on the rules.ima. Also been trying to spec
out a way to give the end user some control over some simple Spam
management. It would be great if a host administrator (and even the end
user) could determine which Declude Spam tests we make available from a
list they would like to use, as well as the ability to add/edit/delete
their own Declude Kill list addresses.  However, requires unique
global.cfg for each which is not currently possible and sure there are a
lot of issues involving same to to this. But it sure would be nice!

Don S.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Baker |
Netsmith Inc
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:36 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

The same obstacle I have not quite overcome as of yet. We use a size
restriction to keep mailbox's from filling up the entire mail server HD
(10MB per user). And to ensure their SPAM box does not stop incoming
mail if
the user is not erasing it we have this little disclaimer...

Note: All mailbox's have a 10 megabyte limit, and due to restrictions of
our
mail server we cannot automatically purge SPAM after a certain amount of
time, to ensure your SPAM folder does not fill up your mailbox, if your
SPAM
folder ever reaches 3 megabytes, it will automatically be completely
erased.

And to enforce it, I run a nightly search on the entire mail dir
D:\mail\*\spam.mbx (recursive serch)
Where size > 3084kb

And erase any spam.mbx's that I find....
I'm working on a more creative solution.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Frolick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


I do have one question, how do you manage the size of the spam folder
when
they use that option?  I would love to use the MAILBOX action, but have
no
way of cleaning out the spam folder without affecting the other folders,
including inbox, as well. We currently do not use aging as a restriction
for
those who use webmail exclusively, we opted for size limits instead.

Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Baker |
Netsmith
Inc
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:09 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Ok, I will stop posting on this thread after this.

For a working-example on how I have achieved this with imail and cold
fusion
I have setup a test account.

Login = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pass  = declude

Manager: http://users.bsc.net/
WebMail: http://mail.bsc.net/

>From the manager you can *import* an Outlook Express address book,
Or build your own, you can adjust the filter levels, and block
individual
users.

These features just manage the rules.ima, which you can watch by going
to
the web-mail Interface and clicking "Change Processing Rules"

Anyone on this list is welcome to upload dummy address book's and play
with
this account I just wanted to demonstrate to others how I have
creatively
achieved this with IMAIL 6 / Cold Fusion.

* note: I built this interface before I became aware of the power of
WEIGHT,
changing the filter-definitions to work with weights instead of
individual
headers is on my to-do list, so if anyone actually does look at this
please
don't flame me on how I could improve that. I am already aware :)





-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Excuse the typo everyone, I meant to put a "not (!)"  in that long
string

H!~THIS.......

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:41 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Oh, for an "address book only"
You must also add one last entry at the bottom of rules.ima

H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL

That will force anything not matched in the above of rules.ima to be
deleted

Ex:
--rules.ima--
H~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
F~declude.com:main
F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:main
H~THISWILLNEVERMATCHBECAUSEITSAREALLYLONGBOGUSSSTRING:NUL
--/rules.ima--

Anything that does not match the first 3 lines will be deleted



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Baker|Netsmith Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Yes, this is how I already accomplished this for my users.
I have a cold fusion interface which verified login/password, then
manages
their rules.ima Anyone they want to "allow" it writes at the top of the
rules.ima...

F~[EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN

Any junk-mail they want to block it sends to SPAM folder

H~X-RBL-WARNING:SPAM

The "problem" with authorization is that IMAIL passwords are stored in
registry, so you have to make your script verify their password via
POP3, or
use the IMAIL/REG password Decryption   routine that I wrote.

Could easily be replicated in .asp as well



-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?


Not to be sarcastic, but wouldn't that be done in a rules.ima file that
is
configurable by the user?

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:32 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Address Book Only in Declude?

I just got the following request from one of my users:

R> How do I arrange to receive only emails from members of my address
book?

In  my opinion this could be the biggest feature added to Declude at
this
time. Here's how I'd like it to work:

Declude looks at a text cfg file to see if this feature is turned on for
a
select domain or e-mail account... for example,

if   in   ADDR.CFG   email   address  or  domain  wyndows.com  or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] then

Look  at c:\Imail\Wyndows\users\heath\aliases.txt MAILFROM exists then
pass
the  e-mail  to this account, else delete...or return e-mail as
rejected..

How soon can I get this, Scott? <grin>

--
Roger Heath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rleeheath.com

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