Reply to: Charles Frolick
      Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain? on Friday 9:35:39 AM

We already capture most spam and virus using weights in Declude,
so the user would only be hit with border line emails. I see this
as an ideal scenario for those that would want such a feature.

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Roger Heath
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C> One problem with held or bounced mail that notifies the intended
C> recipient that it was blocked, is, you did not elimiate the spam, only
C> change it's contents to hundreds of notifications of unwanted mail.
C> This will get very old, very fast, and lead to the blacklists you are
C> trying to avoid.  Intelligent spam filters, combined with reasonably
C> reliable black lists and weighting are much more customizable, and can
C> be set up to allow customers to choose what to hold, what to delete, and
C> what to deliver.  Several members of this list have created such apps
C> using various methods. Before I set mine up I would receive between 50
C> and 100 spams a day, all where caught by Declude, but had low weights
C> (as an ISP I have to be somewhat cosevative in my weighting).  After
C> setting up a system that lets the individuals decide, I used very
C> aggressive setting and now only get 5-10 a day tops, many days I get
C> none.  I never miss any wanted email, I have an allowed senders list and
C> a blocked senders list, and since it uses Imail rules, I can override
C> the hold and delete settings for the rare occasion, such as the poorly
C> built mailer on my statistics program, that always fails BADHEADERS and
C> SPAMHEADERS, and I cant't allow the sender because that's one of the
C> broken headers.

C> Sorry to ramble, just felt I needed to put my two cents in.

C> Thanks,
C> Chuck Frolick
C> ArgoNet, Inc.

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C> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath
C> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:24 PM
C> To: R. Scott Perry
C> Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain?


C> Reply to: R. Scott Perry
C>       Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WhiteList Per User or Domain? on Thursday
C> 3:13:03 PM

C> Thanks.  But a catchall is exactly what I don't want. What I want is a
C> bounce  so  the  sender  knows  his  mail  was not accepted... maybe a
C> catchall  if  cannot  deliver  to  sender... There are whitelist email
C> providers  showing  up and usually the sender gets sent a message that
C> his  mail  was not delivered. Usually there is a process to inform the
C> destination  user  if  he  wants  to  add  the  sender  to  his or her
C> whitelist.  Maybe  this  is not feasible with Declude, but it would be
C> most certainly nice to have. The lead ZDNet editor David Berlind and I
C> have  a  dialog  going and he is really down on blacklists and more or
C> less  endorsing  the  whitelist concept. So I am shooting for a way to
C> manage this in Declude. I was thinking I could put high weights on all
C> other  emails  with a bounce by default but give a white list negative
C> counter-weights to let those through. Not sure his would work?

C> --
C> Roger Heath
C> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C> www.rleeheath.com


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>>>Is it possible to make a Declude domain or user setting that enables a
>>>whitelist  of  email  sender  addresses in the Pro version whereby all
>>>emails are rejected or bounced accept a whitelist of senders? In other
>>>words  reject  or bounce all senders accept those that the user wishes
>>>to  communicate with. Could this be done with weights...sending an eml
>>>to  bounced  mails? This way the Global.Cfg would not be used with its
>>>limitations.

R>> This isn't currently possible as a designed feature, but you should
C> be able 
R>> to accomplish it with the next release.  To do so, you would set up a

R>> per-domain or per-user configuration of "CATCHALLMAILS HOLD" or
C> something 
R>> similar, and then have a whitelist file for that user with all the 
R>> addresses that should be accepted.
R>>                                    -Scott

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