I just verified a piece of spam that originated from a dialup IP. Now its in my list and I see Trustic has listed that IP as a "trusted" server... Its loaded with automatic recommendations from that stupid auto-positive list. In fact the last four spams come from servers marked as 'Trusted'.
Looks like the people using automatic whitelisting are overwhelming the blacklisters who actually send mail... A losing battle. ESPECIALLY since I had Declude ROUTETO my high-weight spam to my Trustic bounce address... Where it promptly gave them all positive recommendations until I got it shut off. Beta indeed. -------------------------------------------- Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Levitsky Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL.. > One thing I was REALLY not happy about was their method of adding > default positives (i.e. the originally posted test). Basically if no > one has said anything bad about a server it gets an automatic positive. > I plugged this into Declude and gave a blast of positives -- all to spam > that apparently hadn't made it into their system yet. By the time I got > it shut off I'd given out 47 'false' positives. That's not very smart > logic and a great way to loosen up your spam rules. Much smarter to > control the trusted entries yourself via other means (i.e. Declude > whitelist or make your own trusted whitelist in Declude with a negative > weight). You can use the DNS entry that doesn't have "POS-" on the front and you won't give positives for mail servers that haven't been seen by Trustic before. I am going to suggest to them that there be a neutral setting. I understand they want to build a very complete list of mail servers so admins can take responsibility for their servers. If new servers were added as neutral then they would get a good list of lots of servers and weighting wouldn't be affected. Would also be nice if they gave one result for bad (which they do 127.0.0.2) and another result for positive and yet another for trusted positive. Then I could give positive weights for trusted positives and take away spam points from servers I say are good. -Josh --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
