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From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL..


> I'd leave this service alone for awhile so they can get their act
> together.  They may call this a beta but it looks like it should still
> be an alpha.  That method of auto-whitelisting is clearly something that
> wasn't thought through.  All you have to do is look at a Trustic log and
> check out all the 'trusted' dialup and broadband IPs to see that.

Wouldn't you get mad if one spam submitted marked your server as a spammer?
Isn't that the argument people make against SpamCop? If 1000 servers got
mail from your server and one guy said you had spam from your server then
Trustic wouldn't block you where SpamCop might because SpamCop doesn't give
credit for all the good things your server has done. There's a learning
period that goes in to any intelligent blacklist. Right now there are only
about 350,000 IPs in their database. One of the top blocked sites only has 3
emails that were submitted to get it on the blocked list. It needs more
volume to be accurate. I personally have 2000 records as negatives, and 37
records that I have submitted as positives to help with the accuracy.

Those trusted dialup and broadband IPs are trusted because people have
gotten mail but not gotten to submit the spam back to Trustic so the proper
action is to trust them. Also your Trustic ranking controls how much your
negatives count in the system. I'm a 0.33 ranking. If you are lower than
your reports count for less towards making a server untrusted.

-Josh


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