> >
> > These lists that we all have come to love, could be made 
> > available via 
> > FTP and we can host them on our own servers...
> >
>
> You would have to download the lists quite often to stay 
> current, and they are rather large.  And if the site is being 
> DDoSed, and it cannot even respond to regular DNS queries, 
> how are you going to be able to connect to download the updates?


I think it's a good idea to share such tables. (If the blacklist
maintainer agree to share his entire knowledge)
Regarding updates the file sizes should be much lower if they contain
only the changed values.

Something like
+123.123.123.123
-122.122.122.122
...

Then it's also a question huw much traffic creates the
[your_processed_messages] x [your_ip4r+rbls_tests] DNS-lookups any day.

My opinion about sharing tecnologies:
It's a little bit programming work but why not use P2P tecnologies to
search for special signed file names containing the update for a certain
day? If this file is signed with a digital certificate it should be save
to run such a update over P2P in automatic mode. The maintainer of this
list can work from everywhere arround the world. He must only put the
daily updates in the P2P network.

Spammers shouldn't have any advantage from such public blacklists
because they are already able to check DNS based blacklists if the IP
they use currently to send out spam is blacklisted somewhere.

Maybe daily updates are to slow for effective spam filtering and also
hourly updates would ask some changes on the local anti spam filters
(for example a queue-wait for suspiciuos messages)

On the other side such shared blacklists can contain also additional
data like a relative weight about any listed IP to indicate not only
"yes" or "no" but also "maybe yes", "for shure!" and so on.

I preffer also to have a clear defined maintainer that follows "his
rules" to maintain a certain list. Something like a "open-blacklist" can
be a little bit difficult because it's not clear who can add or delete
IPs.

Have a nice weekend!

Markus

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