There has been a lot of discussion lately on the Spam-L list about using
something like Entropy  http://entropy.stop1984.com/en/home.html or FreeNet
http://freenet.sourceforge.net as a means to distribute updates, since it's
much like what you are describing below.

I certainly hope that there is a viable solution to all of this, as I don't
see the spam issue getting any better in the near term.

Bill
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From: "Markus Gufler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists


>
> > Multiply times the number of databases you want to use, times
> > the number of times you would need to download them each day
>
> The size remains nearly the same.
> 24 hourly little diff files = 1 daily diff file
>
>
> > to stay current, times the number of people that want to
> > download the files--have you got a spare OC-3 laying around...?
>
> No. If the file is shared from a single point it can be DDOSed even if
> you have 3 OC-3s. The point is to push this data into a P2P network. Do
> you know how much Terabytes of data any day will be transfered only by
> mp3 and mpg exchange? It's not one single user who provides Madonna's
> last song.  ;-)
>
> Maybe the total traffic will increase because I will download (and in a
> P2P network also share) data that I never need, simply because my server
> doesn't receive any message from all this blacklisted Ips.
>
> But on the other side I will transfer any IP only one time if added and
> one time if removed and this in a zipped format. At them moment I will
> create traffic for every single message containing not only the IP but
> also a unique identifier pointing to the regarding DNS server.
> (Ip.ad.dr.es.dnsserver.provider.com) Don't talk about traffic overhead
> for thousands of small IP packets.
>
> Maybe I'm missing something and you're right.
>
> Would be interresting to invite someone like Bill Larson from compu.net
> who has send out this week an anouncement about his conseqences due the
> the high DDOS attack risk that IP blacklist providers run into last
> weeks.
> I'm sure he can say something about traffic volume, daily changed
> records and so on.
>
> Markus
>
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