Of course I know that you're right.  I will do an express install
somewhere, but I doubt I'd be able to simulate the load and the
processes.  I am backing up my IMAIL reg and all the user mailboxes.
Where my mail is hosted I am due for an upgrade of the server, I may
install 7.15 on the new server, move everything over upgrade the new box
to 8.04 and keep the old one at 7.15 for as long as the hosting company
will let me.

Please excuse my ignorance again, but since I have updated my Declude to
include the EASYNET-DYNA test someone who is sending from an optimum
online account is getting caught by this test.  Are all of optonline's
servers listed by this test?  Or is something else going on with this
guy's optonline? Maybe I'm just tired...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford
Whiteman
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:18 AM
To: Marc Catuogno
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Originating IP -I'm confused, please
don't flame me...

> I  just assumed that when mail came from my server...

"From your server" = "originating IP is your server's IP." This is not
the  case  when  sending from any MUA other than an app running on the
server itself!

You've  def'ly been confused about the connecting IP of mail from your
local  users,  from  spammers, from legit remote users...in all cases,
the  IP  is the IP that connects to your server to send mail, pure and
simple. There's no "translation" of the IP for anyone.

> I  wonder  if  I  had them authenticate at a different SMTP or did a
> store  and  forward  server  and having that IP whitelisted, if that
> would assuage this issue.

Well,  that's one way to do it, if you don't mind disparate userbases,
unnecessary dedicated servers, et al.

> IMAIL 8 scares me. 80% of my users use the web interface exclusively
> and the reported slowness will get me tarred and feathered...

Why don't you try with IMail Express and see what you think first? You
seem  a  prime  candidate for WHITELIST AUTH, and it's painful to know
you're jumping through hoops to avoid that straightforward solution.

-Sandy


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Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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