Say for example I have 10,000 people using MSN.com addresses to spam me
with.

I add the spamdomains test and enter in @msn.com into it.

Now it does well to stop the spammers, but now I am falsely tagging mail
from ebay.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] making a bid inquiry.

If we could have a spamdomains RDNS whitelist, then anything with a
.ebay.com address is whitelisted, or whatever we put in the list.

I know we can whitelist in the main .cfg file, but I'm not sure I would
want to whitelist ebay from every test, just whitelist from the
spamdomains test.


Jason


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamDomains


Everything is already excluded from the spamdomains test except that
which you specifically included.  So I'm not sure I understand what
you're asking for here?

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Newland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamDomains


> I don't know how hard it would be, but what about just adding in a 
> "pre"
filter in the spamdomains test that will bypass the test.  Like:
>
>
> Spamdomains.txt:
>
> [RDNS excluded from check]
>
> ebay.com
> greetingcardvendor.com
>
>
> [includes]
> .yahoo.com
> @msn.com
> etc, etc
>
>
> This would also allow us to build our list of acceptable excluded
addresses together, further improving the tests accuracy.
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Matthew Bramble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date:  Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:38:18 -0500
>
> >Alejandro,
> >
> > From the Declude JunkMail manual page:
> >
> >    "This test will catch E-mail that is not coming from a mailserver
> >    that it should be coming from. This test will only work if you
set
> >    up a file listing domains that you wish to be included in this
test.
> >    Specifically, it will check the return address of the E-mail, and
> >    then check to see if the reverse DNS entry of the IP that the
E-mail
> >    was sent from contains the domain name. If not, the E-mail fails
the
> >    test. For example, if "hotmail.com" is listed in the
> >    \IMail\Declude\spamdomains.txt file, then an E-mail coming from
> >    "law2.hotmail.com" would not fail the test, but an E-mail from
> >    "mail.example.ru" would fail the test."
> >
> >You can search the archives for some discussions of this.  It's 
> >hardly foolproof, things like greeting cards and send-a-link sites 
> >will often fail the test because they send E-mail with a MAILFROM 
> >address of the person sending the note and not the service sending 
> >the note.  I suggest that you always use the @ symbol in the first 
> >column, and you should set up two different files and score them 
> >differently.  One should be for ISP's and E-mail providers such as 
> >AOL, HotMail, Yahoo, etc., and the other should be for businesses 
> >that are often spoofed such as Microsoft, PayPal, Symantec/Norton, 
> >McAfee.  Be careful not to include companies that may use thrid-party

> >mass mailers for newsletters.  The second type of test can be scored 
> >higher because you are less likely to be getting greeting cards from 
> >people with real addresses at these companies than you are from 
> >places like AOL.
> >
> >You might also be thinking of including your own domains in this 
> >test, but that again should be in a totally different file, and 
> >scored very low because even if you are using WHITELIST AUTH 
> >functionality, you will most definitely get users sending E-mail with

> >your hosted addresses configured in their E-mail program but are 
> >using someone else's mail server, or without WHITELIST AUTH, they 
> >will fail when using your own mail server.
> >
> >Matt
> >
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