>From what I read so far, the idea is that you need someone ELSE (who him/herself was trusted before) to trust you (e.g., Scott has offered to trust his customers.)
Basically, you whitelist yourself and then decide who you want to trust. The trust can be transitive and you can define how many "nodes" removed you want to implicitly trust. E.g., you can decide that you trust certain companies and whoever they trust and whoever they trust - and then stop there. Unless one of those two-removed levels trusts a spammer, there would be no problem if a different section of the web contained spammers who signed themselves up. Best Regards Andy Schmidt H&M Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax: +1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 05:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Web-o-Trust Pardon my jumping in this discussion late: How do the names get added to the list (or web-o-trust)? It appears that companies say, "I'm not a spammer, trust me!" What keeps the spammers of the list? The distributed nature of the management is what keeps the time commitment down, but at the same time minimizes the effectiveness. What am I missing here? Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Web-o-Trust > > I think WOT could be very worth while for the 10-15 minutes it takes to > setup. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Web-o-Trust > > > > > > >Scott, I looked into this several months ago, but at the time it did > not > > >seem to be getting much interest, and still doesn't appear to have much > of a > > >following (maybe 100 participants so far on their list). However, I am > > >willing to give it a go. Question, how do we use this with Declude > JunkMail > > >in its current form? > > > > Something else that is worth mentioning here is that there are a number > of > > IPs that will almost never send spam, but will be likely to get caught > as > > spam. For example, purchase confirmations from eBay, amazon, etc. have > a > > higher likelihood of getting caught than normal E-mail -- but their IPs > > just don't send out spam. All it takes is one person adding those IPs, > and > > without any work on the part of everyone else, they will be able to get > > mail from those IPs without a problem. > > > > FWIW, we are working on a Windows program to automatically crawl through > > WOT files and generate sorted IP blacklist files (along with comments > > showing where the IP came from), without having to figure out how to run > > Python that the collate program is written in. > > > > -Scott > > --- > > Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. > > Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in mailserver > > vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask > > about our free 30-day evaluation. > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
