I think that Markus is mostly on the same page as I am on this issue.

So far today, I have managed to catch 22 bounces from a Joe Job on one customer's account that started late last night, and this is only what my server caught due to the bounces containing the original content that tripped my filters. The previous one seems to have died down. The one that's going on right now can be stopped by killing messages handled by the nobody alias since this one uses a fake address on my customer's domain.

The issue with writing a filter for this is that it might be very hard to just target undeliverable messages due to spam is that it would probably be impossible to target just one subset as opposed to all of it. I'm thinking that I should write a filter for basically all bounces and virus notifications, and upon request, use a ROUTETO action (or whatever is appropriate) in the domain specific file, so that these messages are delivered to a sub-directory to where we are placing their held spam.

I'm also definitely going to start redirecting unaddressable stuff to a sub-directlry by default as several of these Joe Jobs have used fake addresses, and that will take care of the problem.

So the course of action will be:

1) Give a choice to redirect the nobody alias to a sub-directory (for local accounts only).
2) Give a choice to have a filter redirect system generated messages to a sub-directory.


I would prefer not to have to turn this stuff off and on on a regular basis, so we'll see how receptive my clients are to this.

Matt



Markus Gufler wrote:

my customers are looking to me for a solution, imperfect as it may be in the end. I'm not by far sure about what to do.



Matt,


In this case maybe it's a solution to define a separated filter file
(BLOCKBOUNCES) and put in this filter file as much bounce error strings as
you can find. Then if a customer asks you if it's possible to block all this
bounces you can explain him that this is possible, but this can also block
"real" error messages.

If your customer agree's you can create a per-user or per-domain junkmail
file that does something with it. (add weight, block, routeto, ...)

Maybe it would be an idea to create something between John's Autowhite and
Scott's Hijack: Hold any messages identified as NDR in a separated user
directory. Then requeue them only if there are not more then X such messages
in a certain time range. This would allow "regular" error reports going
trough and dinamically filter all of them during Joe-Job periods.

Maybe a problem can occur if a customer sends out a large number of e-mails
and there are several bounces. But if this happens I assume that the
addresses was not aquired "regulary"  ;-)

Markus





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