On 18 May 2004 at 12:45, Matt wrote:
Very slick Matt great idea! 

    -Nick Hayer



> One other thing.  Unless you have a ton of traffic (~100,000/day) or
> have people doing BCC blasts from your server to hundreds of
> addresses, there is a setting in IMail 8.x that can slow down the
> dictionary attack so that it doesn't threaten your server's ability to
> process E-mail.
> 
> On the SMTP > Advanced tab, there is a setting for "Delay between
> recipients", typically 0 by default.  This is a time in milliseconds
> and it can be increased without obvious effect for normal operation to
> a value of 500 or even 1000.  If your server can handle about 3
> messages a second over a prolonged period outside of Declude, you
> might set the value at 500 (allowing for a little extra processing
> power to handle legitimate E-mail).  This would mean that any local or
> external sender that tried to To, CC or BCC a message to say 100
> addresses on your server, would take 50 seconds just to have your
> server respond to all of the RCPT TO commands.  I had mine set to 1000
> for the longest time without any reports of problems except for one
> person that mailed out messages to just under 100 addresses (which
> would take almost 2 minutes for his E-mail program to report that the
> message was delivered).  I dropped it down a little while ago, but I'm
> going to pump it back up to 500 again.
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> Matt wrote:
> 
> > Keith,
> >
> > I've been seeing a sharp uptick in this sort of activity as well. 
> > Typically they include about 200 generic E-mail addresses, but some
> > are now throwing thousands of addresses for a fuller attack.  If the
> > E-mail is  going to a locally hosted domain, the best defense is to
> > remove the nobody alias as this will stop the attempts dead at the
> > envelope and save lots of processing power.  If this is gatewayed
> > E-mail, a solution becomes much more involved as you will need to
> > install a different product that can do address verification for
> > non-IMail addresses and reject at the envelope (and maintain a
> > database of such addresses).
> >
> > Regarding blocking the IP's, while I'm sure you could parse them out
> > of your logs, they tend to attack from zombies, and typically use
> > many at the same time.  Each attack seems to use different sets of
> > zombies as well.  My feeling is to just simply let it go on because
> > I don't want to waste too much time blocking IP's at the router or
> > SMTP envelope that change constantly.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith Purtell wrote:
> >
> >> I'm having a new experience with our mail server. Suddenly I'm
> >> getting numerous dictionary attacks from different IP addresses. At
> >> first I blocked the IP addresses in IMail SMTP Security, but after
> >> adding a dozen I got tired. I'd rather detect the pattern and
> >> automatically stop it that way. Any tips?
> >>
> >> Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
> >> VantageMed Corporation (Kansas City office)
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