RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink now using challenge-response

[Colbeck, Andrew]

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... or Postie, or dropping the message into an IIS SMTP pickup folder, or... but hopefully, not writing their own outbound MTA.   Andrew 8) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:57 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink now using challenge-response >> IMail won't let Declude send as <>.  That's the problem.<<   Almost. The problem is that Declude still CHOOSES to use the Imail1.exe command line application, even though it clearly is unsuitable for the task.   Instead, they should allow us to configure which command line application we want to use for mailing, e.g. BLAT (http://www.blat.net/syntax/syntax.html) Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:45 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink now using challenge-response IMail won't let Declude send as <>.  That's the problem. Matt Andy Schmidt wrote: >> If I could I would bounce their C/R so it never get to us.  I tried it once and it got us in a loop with another ISP's C/R <<   Yes, that's Declude's fault as much as it is an unacceptable C/R implementation.  NEITHER should be sending notices from anything but NULL.  If at least ONE party had their act together, there would be no loops.   Declude has a HUGE flaw that it's OWN bounce messages (and other notices), cannot be sent from the <> (null) sender.  They are using the Imail mailer to generate their notices, which doesn't support <> as the sender.  They really need to allow us to define the path of one of the readily available third party mailers that CAN send messages from NULL. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:15 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink now using challenge-response "BTW, Kami has had repeated issues with C/R stopping his receipts.  I'm not totally sure of the details there."   WE HATE EARTHLINK.. everyday we get 20-30 C/R to our receipts.  We simply delete them since it is impossible to keep up.   If I could I would bounce their C/R so it never get to us.  I tried it once and it got us in a loop with another ISP's C/R and by the time we stopped it 200 emails had gone back and forth.  Lesson learned :)   Regards, - Kami     -- ===================================================== MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =====================================================