Thank you for the info, much appreciated.  There were two messages in my
overflow at the time, which I have since deleted, but helps me to
understand what has happened.

Thanks!

Will


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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues

Will,

This is a bug in 2.0.6 and I have seen it as well.  In fact I have
opened a
support ticket on this.  This is what I have found in regards to this
under
2.0.6.  When a Declude process finishes processing a message it checks
to
see if there any files are in the overflow directory.  If there are
files in
the overflow and you are under your max declude processes it will spawn
a
Declude process to work on the overflow directory.  What I have seen is
that
under high load something goes wrong with this process and Declude will
launch Declude processes until the server crashes (or exhibits symptoms
like
you described).  I suspect this occurs because the box is so loaded
Declude
is unable to get an accurate Declude process count so it seems to think
it
is under its max limit when it is not.

I did catch all of this in debug mode and the Declude support department
is
working on the issue although I have not heard an update to it in a
while.
I would suggest you open a support ticket on this issue as well.

To combat this I switched from AV first to AV after Junkmail this has
dropped the boxes load down considerably.

The other thing I would suggest you do is look at our QueueMon product
which
will monitor the Imail and Declude queue and notify you /and/or run an
external script to recover in situations like this.

Darrell
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues


> Darrell,
>
> I am using Declude 2.0.6 on Imail 8.15.
>
> When the issue occurs I notice Page file usage over 1.5GB, where it is
> normally around 450MB.  The last occurrence I also noticed that there
> were hundreds upon hundreds of Declude.exe processes in addition to
> this.  I stopped the smtp and queue manager service, but many declude
> processes stayed, the memory usage did not go down.  After ending all
of
> them manually and restarting the smtp service, once again hundreds of
> declude.exe processes occurred.  After restarting the server complete,
> the issue was resolved and I could start to process the 180,000 some
> message that were backlogged in /spool.
>
> Will
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:09 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues
>
> Will,
>
> What version of Declude?  I have been running Declude since 1.5x and
> have
> not seen any memory issues with Declude on high volume mail servers
> (125K+
> messages per day).  What are the symptoms you are seeing?  I know on
my
> systems I see smtpd memory consumption gain until it requires me to
stop
> and
> restart that service.
>
> Darrell
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:39 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude memory issues
>
>
> > I had noticed this with an older version and now that I am a Declude
> > user again, I see we still have an issue.  There appears to be a
> memory
> > leak when running Declude on our Imail server, which is not there
when
> I
> > remove Delcude.  My server will run for about two weeks before my
> memory
> > gets to the point that it can no longer support the running
processes
> > and mail begins to get backlogged severely.
> >
> > Does anyone else run into this issue or find they need to instate
> > automated reboots?  I really do not want to do this.
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
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