Nothing except what I had posted earlier in the code has changed. And the
changes should not have effected the CPU in anyway. 

Unless we can replicate the issue it becomes very difficult to resolve. If
you can send me any data that shows what you are seeing, we can then try
replicate the problem.

David B
www.declude.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

It seems to me that something changed in the code

If all I do is change from V9 to V11 and I see a noticeable difference, then
it has to be caused by a change in the code from V9 to V11.  No other
hardware or software was changed!!!

I have gotten direction to change settings, however that in no way addresses
the point I am making.

I have not seen that addressed.

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet & Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:33 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly 
> scared of upgrading Declude.
> 
> I just can't figure out the logic behind all the CPU 
> consumption and why certain process parameters are suspected 
> to have detrimental effects.
> 
> 
> Please verify my thinking:
> 
> A machine that needs to process a given amount of mail will 
> require a certain number of instructions, which are reflected 
> in the total CPU usage.
> If several messages come in almost simultaneously, then I can 
> either process them right away using parallel processes, 
> causing a short spike in CPU use - or I can process them one 
> by one, using up the same CPU time over time and causing a 
> few seconds delay in mail delivery.
> 
> Either way, the overall CPU consumption should be the same - 
> just distributed differently.
> 
> 
> So - if the above is true, how do I explain the apparent 
> inconsistency where users report that the CPU consumption is 
> considerable higher than in the prior version? How can the 
> various "process" settings make any difference - at worst it 
> should spike quickly and then be idle?
> 
> If the old Declude handled the amount of mail with moderate 
> CPU use and without causing noticeable delays in mail 
> delivery to the users - then I can't see how the same outcome 
> suddenly should require x times the CPU resources, no matter 
> how inefficient the process settings are? What is spending 
> all this other CPU time on? Looping, looking for directory content?
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
> 
> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:13 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> I changed the THREADS to 75 and CPU wnet down to about avg 
> 50%.   I'll try
> WAITFORMAIL in just a bit.
> 
> I also noticed in my spool folder I have a new folder called 
> "s" that appeared with the time stamp of the new proc 
> install.  There is nothing in it; just a blank folder. I deleted it.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Randy Armbrecht
> Global Web Solutions, Inc.
> 804-346-5300 x112
> 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
> http://globalweb.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:39 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> Randy try changing
> 
> WAITFORMAIL   1500
> 
> To
> 
> WAITFORMAIL   500
> 
> See if that changes the delay.
> 
> David B
> www.declude.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:16 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in 
> that it's way down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will 
> accumulate approx 35-50 messages before it'll dump them to 
> the work folder.  Do not see any problems so far except for 
> the second or two delay in this...
> 
> We have in our declude.cfg:
> THREADS       50
> WAITFORMAIL   1500
> WAITFORTHREADS  1000
> WAITBETWEENTHREADS    1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Randy Armbrecht
> Global Web Solutions, Inc.
> 804-346-5300 x112
> 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
> http://globalweb.net
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Vanderzand
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Cc: 'Technical Support'
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer & invurbl
> 
> The issue is that without changing anything other than going 
> to 3.05.11 this occurs
> 
> It appears that processing has changed
> 
> If I could get some idea from Declude about this. 
> 
> Maybe I have to change my declude.cfg?
> 
> It currently is
> 
> threads       20
> waitformail 500
> waitforthreads 1500
> waitbetweenthreads 100
> 
> Harry Vanderzand
> inTown Internet & Computer Services
> 11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
> 519-741-1222
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter
> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:30 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> > 
> > Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any 
> previous version
> > -- proc and work are quickly cleared.
> > 
> > What process is jumping the CPU up so high? Decludeproc or the 
> > anti-virus
> > scanner(s) or something else?  How about some more info (CPU, RAM, 
> > declude.cfg contents, do you run AVAFTERJM?, that kind of thing.)
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry 
> > Vanderzand
> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:10 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> > 
> > When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage goes up considerably 
> > and mail gets processed much slower and starts to backlog.
> > 
> > I have had to switch back to 3.05.9
> > 
> > Harry Vanderzand
> > inTown Internet & Computer Services
> > 11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
> > 519-741-1222
> > 
> > 
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