Darrell

I had a similar problem a few months ago. I found our firewall was
not allowing our mail server to query (I think) a declude site. For
us it resulted in a memory leak as well as periodic declude failure
for spam. It would take anywhere from 4 to 18 hours to fail.
It was fixed once I allowed the outgoing query throught the firewall.

John

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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 8:30 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] License Downgraded [was All I wan't for
Christmas is not to be paged!)


The one thing I want to be careful on is us speculating - we have no idea
what happened and I am sure there is a good explanation behind what
happened.  I can only hope so as I leaked a TON of spam this weekend that I
will have to explain why to my customers etc.

Just keep an eye on your upgraded 3.0.5.22 - as I only got about 24 hours
before mine went south again.

Darrell

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] License Downgraded [was All I wan't for
Christmas is not to be paged!)


> There was no human intervention here.  Perhaps there was on the
> Declude side of the equation.
>
> I have never liked the 'ET call home' method of license validation. It
> is a security risk on its face - nothing personal to Declude and it is
> something else that can break. A new license key upon each renewal
> would be better IMHO.
>
>
> Monday, December 26, 2005, 10:05:20 AM, Andy Schmidt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AS> Hi Darrell:
>
> AS> I had been assured by the highest authority that it would require
> HUMAN
> AS> intervention if there was ever going to be a licensing "mismatch"
> detected,
> AS> before the "remote deactivation" of a license.
>
> AS> We will need to watch for their explanation to see whether that policy
> has
> AS> now changed for the worse -- with the very obvious result everyone had
> been
> AS> fearful of (that any automatic process WILL fail at SOME point.)
>
> AS> I cannot afford to run mission critical applications 24x365, if I have
> to
> AS> blindly rely on the availability of third party resources that I know
> AS> nothing about.
>
> AS> Best Regards
> AS> Andy Schmidt
>
> AS> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> AS> Fax:    +1 201 934-9206
>
>
> AS> -----Original Message-----
> AS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AS> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
> AS> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> AS> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:49 AM
> AS> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> AS> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] License Downgraded [was All I wan't
> for
> AS> Christmas is not to be paged!)
>
> AS> I sent an email back into support last night as I started having slow
> AS> processing again.  I have reverted back to 2.0.6 and all is running
> well.
>>>From what I can tell (AND I COULD BE WRONG) it appears that the
>>>licensing
> AS> process is broke at the Declude end.  I *think* one of the name
> servers they
> AS> run (ns.decludekey.us ) for a domain cphzkey.com is/was down over the
> AS> weekend.  I am still waiting for support to respond.
>
> AS> I am not going to go into speculation about the licensing process,
> because I
> AS> don't want to feed any bad info because I have no idea how it works.
> AS> However, from what I troubleshoot on my system coupled with reviewing
> a
> AS> user.dmp/dr. watson from the decludeproc during the issue I feel
> comfortable
> AS> in saying my problems that I seen on my system over the weekend are
> caused
> AS> by a failure to validate its license.
>
> AS> Darrell
>
>
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> And
> AS> Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI
> integration, MRTG
> AS> Integration, and Log Parsers.
>
> AS> ----- Original Message -----
> AS> From: "Dave Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> AS> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> AS> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:27 AM
> AS> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] License Downgraded [was All I wan't
> for
> AS> Christmas is not to be paged!)
>
>
>>> FWIW,
>>>
>>> We are not seeing this problem.
>>>
>>> -d
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] License Downgraded [was All I wan't
>>> for Christmas is not to be paged!)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Our install of Junkmail Pro is also running as standard.  We've
>>>> rebooted several times and can't get it to restore to Pro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Saturday, December 24, 2005, 10:36:37 PM, Darrell
>>>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Dsic> So here it is the night before Christmas and all though the
>>>> Dsic> house
>>>> not a
>>>> Dsic> creature was stirring not even a mouse.
>>>> Dsic> My pager starts going off incenstantly - so I jump up to see
>>>> Dsic> what's
>>>> the
>>>> Dsic> matter - oh my queues are filling up faster and faster...
>>>> Dsic> Sorry about that - maybe its the Christmas spirit that grabbed
>>>> me...
>>>>
>>>> Dsic> When I got into the server my proc folder was around 2500+
>>>> Dsic> q*.smd
>>>> files.
>>>> Dsic> Thank god for QueueMon :)
>>>>
>>>> Dsic> At first I had no idea what was going on - my proc folder was
>>>> growing and
>>>> Dsic> growing.  I checked the usual suspects (DNS, etc) and
>>>> Dsic> everything
>>>> was working
>>>> Dsic> fine.  I started to sift through the logs and noticed a huge
>>>> Dsic> amount
>>>> of
>>>> Dsic> messages that were failing a lot of tests and should have been
>>>> Dsic> held
>>>> or
>>>> Dsic> deleted but were being marked with "LAST ACTION=IGNORE".
>>>>
>>>> Dsic> I bumped up the log levels and started to see the following:
>>>>
>>>> Dsic> Sorry, filters [REVERSEWEIGHTDNS] are only available in Declude
>>>> JunkMail Pro
>>>> Dsic> Using [no] CFG file outgoing. Pro version required for outgoing
>>>> mail.
>>>>
>>>> Dsic> Not to mention I noticed messages being cleared very slowly.
>>>> Dsic> After
>>>> several
>>>> Dsic> restarts of the "Declude Proc" service things started to move
>>>> again - I am
>>>> Dsic> not sure if it was because of the multiple Declude proc
>>>> Dsic> restarts or
>>>> putting
>>>> Dsic> in the DNSOVERIDE command that we used back under 2.0.6 see -
>>>> Dsic>
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg24661.htm
>>>> l
>>>>
>>>> Dsic> After a couple of restarts of the decludeproc service and the
>>>> DNSOVERIDE
>>>> Dsic> command my Declude started working again as a PRO version and
>>>> messages
>>>> Dsic> started being blocked and processing very quickly.  My queues
>>>> Dsic> than
>>>> cleared
>>>> Dsic> up.
>>>>
>>>> Dsic> I am a bit sick to my stomach over this as I leaked to my
>>>> Dsic> customers
>>>> probably
>>>> Dsic> 4-6K spam's over the entire 3 hour period from when this
>>>> Dsic> started to
>>>> when it
>>>> Dsic> was finished.  I will have a bit of explaining to do I imagine
>>>> Dsic> on
>>>> Tuesday if
>>>> Dsic> not sooner.
>>>>
>>>> Dsic> Has anyone seen this?  Any explanations on what could have
>>>> Dsic> caused
>>>> this.  I
>>>> Dsic> just keep thinking what if I did not have monitoring to catch
>>>> Dsic> this
>>>> in time -
>>>> Dsic> I probably would not have checked the servers until Tuesday.
>>>> Dsic> My
>>>> only guess
>>>> Dsic> is that my server failed in the "phone home" license check and
>>>> downgraded
>>>> Dsic> itself.
>>>>
>>>> Dsic> Darrell
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>>>> integration, MRTG
>>>> Dsic> Integration, and Log Parsers.
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