Yes, everything in Declude is set to WARN. SM has settings for each weight, low, med and high (which correspond to Subject tagging, Hold and Delete in our setup). We have a global setting for the server, and we allow any domain admin or individual user to override these settings.
The Unmark as Spam button puts the sending address in the whitelist section of a user's xml configuration file. If I remember correctly, Declude reads this file and a user's address book file (if you have AUTOWHITELIST on) to see if it should whitelist a message. The trusted senders section of SM works differently. Declude does not read this section, from what I can tell. Declude will still give a message a high weight, but then SM sees that they are a trusted sender and ignores Declude's weight. I almost would rather Unmark as Spam and address book work this way, just to keep things consistent. It may be possible by removing AUTOWHITELIST from global.cfg, but I'm leery about messing with a setup that's working. I forgot to mention the most useful part of the new system: SM now passes authentication information to Declude so Declude won't tag your authenticated users as spam anymore (WHITELIST AUTH). We did have some trouble getting Declude to install. We're fairly sure it was because we had done a manual install of version 2.x that used several drives. I haven't heard of many problems from other people, and in our case a little registry editing took care of it. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:06 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 > > So in your Declude configuration, you have everything set to WARN only? > And then in SmarterMail, you decide what actions to take? What impact > does "unmark as spam" have, in relation to Declude? > > I get the feeling that this could be very powerful, in terms of dealing > with false positives, etc ... assuming that it works as it should. > Using SmarterMail based rules, it'd be possible to move spam to the > customer's junk e-mail folder and then also use SmarterMail's auto-purge > settings to keep the size of the junkmail folder under control. We can > also give our customers more power to whitelist through SmarterMail > trusted senders. > > We are planning on upgrading later this week and I want to do it right. > I just hope that the transition between essentially what was Declude > setup for iMail originally, to Declude integrated with SmarterMail will > be smooth. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Robertson > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:14 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 > > Declude's integration with SmarterMail's spam system is something we had > been waiting on for over a year. Declude passes the final weight back > to > SM, and SM decides what to do with the message. This means you can set > different actions for each user or domain based on whatever weight is > best > for them. Some admins might take this for granted, but using SM 2.x > with > Declude always felt like you were patching together content filters to > try > to trick SM into reading Declude's recommendation. > > Basically everything built into SM to handle spam now works, including: > domain and user level "trusted senders"; whitelisting from address books > and > "Unmark as Spam"; and whitelisting thru SM only applies to the > user/domain > it was set for (whereas whitelisting thru Declude would whitelist the > message for every recipient). > > In addition, the SM spam setting for message forwarding (i.e. - "Do not > forward spam level medium and above") actually works. Very useful. > > In short, the SM 3/Declude 4 combo is an incredible improvement over the > previous version. Declude just assigns the weight -- SM handles > delivering, > modifying or deleting the message. > > I can't comment on SMTP blocking. We use gateways to filter all > incoming > mail, so we don't use that feature. I'd be interested to hear whether > it > actually does use Declude to block at the SMTP level. > > Hope that helps, > Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC > > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:51 AM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 > > > > I'm wondering if anyone is running SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 and can > > explain the greater integration that SmarterMail now has with Declude, > > and how you've been dealing with that so far. Most intriguing is > this > > potential feature from SmarterMail manual: > > > > Declude > > Declude integration allows you to use Declude products in conjunction > > with the SmarterMail weighting system. Configuration of Declude is > done > > through the Declude product, and all you need to do in SmarterMail is > > enable the spam check. > > > > -- AND -- > > > > SMTP Blocking > > This tab allows you to set up extra spam checks that block emails at > > delivery if a certain amount of spam checks fail. > > > > Enable SMTP Spam Blocking - Check this box to turn on this feature. > > > > SMTP Block Threshold - An email must score this value or higher in > order > > to be blocked. The score is established by the settings on the Spam > > Checks tab. > > > > Does this mean that it's now possible to reject messages using Declude > > at the SMTP session level? > > > > Thanks! > > ----- > > Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC > > Director of Technical Operations > > Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully Managed Windows > 2003 > > Hosting Solutions > > Tel: 877-70 HANDY x882 | Fax: 888-300-2FAX > > www.handynetworks.com > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. 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