Thanks for ringing in, John. Wow, this new-fangled support forum thingy does have it's uses!
Andrew 8) > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Doyle > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:13 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x > > This sounds like me. > > I found some notes from my issue back in December. > > When upgrading to v 3 from v 2x we would loose connectivity > every 3 or 4 hours. > We finally figured out Decludeproc needs to get out on port > 53 for some dns function. > We allowed outbound port 53 for dns and the problem went > away. This apparently is for the initial authorization of the > software. I think this is a one time event. > > Upgrading from V3 to V4 we had the same problem. It was > resolved with a phone call to Declude and the discovery that > that the initial authorization had been moved from port 53 to > port 25. After making that change to the firewall V4 runs fine. > > Good luck > > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Colbeck, Andrew > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:36 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x > > > David, that sounds like the case I saw that noted that "his > firewall wasn't allowing outbound DNS" and also noted that > implementing WINSOCKCLEANUP ON worked for him. I wasn't at > all sure that the winsock fix was relevant for him! > > I'll keep watching my folders. Perhaps I'll get lucky enough > to need to the fix and may offer some further insight here. > > Andrew. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Barker > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:30 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x > > > > The only way that we have detected this was with Imail and > mail being > > stuck in the spool. "...network stack causing loss of functionality > > for basic network operations" is generic but if I remember > correctly > > when this happened the admin was not even able to ping an outside > > server, which would suggest to me other IP communications fail as > > well. > > > > David B > > www.declude.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, > > Andrew > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:26 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x > > > > Thanks, David. > > > > I've read all of the support forum emails that have been > posted on the > > WINSOCKCLEANUP and even reviewed them again via the mail archive > > website before my own implementation. > > > > What I haven't been able to tell is whether I can diagnose > this issue > > if I have it before it becomes an outage. > > > > Can it only be detected by it's side-effect of filling up the proc > > folder? > > > > If I have a mechanism on my IMail server that does DNS > queries... Will > > they fail when the WinSock needs being cleaned up? I think > not, as at > > least one posting specifically mentioned that IMail IP4R > tests worked > > when DecludeProc IP4R tests timed out. > > > > Your official description for "WINSOCKCLEANUP ON" says "...network > > stack causing loss of functionality for basic network > operations"; is > > this deliberately generic so that you don't have to explain > what a DNS > > test is, or does it imply that other IP communications will > also fail, > > e.g. > > SMTP and (critically for me) RDP? > > > > Andrew. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > David Barker > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:12 PM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x > > > > > > Andrew, > > > > > > In certain cases we found that Imail would stop resolving, > > it seemed > > > that stop/starting the decludeproc or smtp service fixed > > the problem > > > by resetting the winsock. So we added WINSOCKCLEANUP to > > deal with this > > > specific Imail issue. > > > > > > David B > > > www.declude.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, > > > Andrew > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:45 PM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x > > > > > > David, is there a proactive way to detect if an > installation would > > > benefit from the WINSOCKCLEANUP ON directive in declude.cfg? > > > > > > I would rather be able to detect this while it's > happening than to > > > react when I find that spam is leaking or that the proc folder is > > > continually growing. > > > > > > Andrew. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > David Barker > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:48 AM > > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > 1. The WINSOCKCLEANUP ON activates when the \Proc > > reaches 0 > > > > 2. If Decludeproc stops unexpectedly files it is busy with > > > are move to > > > > the \review > > > > 3. You can use AUTOREVIEW ON to have these move > back to the \proc > > > > 4. Be aware though if there is a real problem message you > > may find > > > > that the message gets looped 5. Make sure you have the > > > latest version > > > > of decludeproc ... There should be a release later today or > > > tommorow. > > > > > > > > David B > > > > www.declude.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:23 AM > > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x > > > > > > > > I found that WINSOCKCLEANUP ON would force a reset if the \proc > > > > directory > > > > never hits 0. In this case, files build up in the \review > > > > subfolder which > > > > require manual processing. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:34 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x > > > > > > > > > > > > > The purpose of WINSOCKCLEANUP ON is to reset the > > > > winsock, what > > > > > happens when using this setting is that when the \proc > > > > directory hit 0 > > > > > decludeproc will finish processing all the messages in > > the \work > > > > > before checking the \proc again. > > > > > > > > --- > > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > and type > > > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". 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