Thanks David

Is the global variable correction important enough to upgrade from 4.2.20?

Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet & Computer Services 
519-741-1222


 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:24 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> 
> Gary,
> 
> 4.3 Release notes: Added CT and a Global variable being 
> initialized more than once has been corrected.
> 
> You are correct in your statement, if you do not want to join 
> our Service Provide Program you can choose not too participate.
> 
> David B
> www.declude.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> 
> Basically you are telling me to ignore the Add Commtouch part 
> of your web page that shows up when I log in to my account.  
> 
> What I find particularly amusing is the line "Restrictions 
> apply to service providers."  If there is anyone subscribed 
> to this mailing list who is not a service provider, please 
> raise your hand.
> 
> Isn't it generally a good idea to have your product's pricing 
> defined before you introduce the product?  I'm sure that 
> everyone here reading the list is extremely curious as to 
> what the revenue share program really is, and when it does 
> come out, unless you hear exclamations of "What a Bargain" 
> coming off this list there won't be many of us joining that program.
> 
> Other than the Commtouch add-on, are there any other features 
> or reasons to upgrade to 4.3?
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:03 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> > 
> > Gary,
> > 
> > 1. Server Providers who use CommTouch as an add-in to 
> Declude will be 
> > in violation of CommTouch's Terms of service.
> > 
> > 2. Some of the benefits of CommTouch are Zero Hour virus protection 
> > and additional spam identifying technology such as 
> Recurrent Pattern 
> > Detection Technology (RPD) recognized by key industry analysts as a 
> > leading technology in email outbreak detection.
> > 
> > 3. We are in the process of defining the revenue share program and 
> > will provide the details to this when it is ready.
> > 
> > David B
> > www.declude.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:09 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> > 
> > So, that being said, under what conditions can a legacy 
> customer use 
> > Commtouch?
> > 
> > Since it would seem that Commtouch is being offered as an 
> add-on, what 
> > are the benefits of having Commtouch?  What does it do that Declude 
> > alone does not?
> > 
> > And of course it would be nice if this "revenue share program" was 
> > spelled out somewhere.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:57 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> > > 
> > > There are restrictions on CommTouch being used by Service 
> Providers 
> > > we had to ensure that NEW customers (ie. Service 
> Providers After 1 
> > > June
> > > 06) understand the licensing restrictions.
> > > 
> > > Current Service Providers (ie. Before 1 June 06) are under no 
> > > restrictions for using Declude; only the CommTouch add-in 
> component.
> > > 
> > > However we have managed to come to an agreement with CommTouch to 
> > > enable our legacy customers (ie. Service Providers Before 
> 1 June 06) 
> > > to take advantage of CommTouch under a revenue share 
> program, this 
> > > program is not being forced onto legacy customers but will be an 
> > > opportunity for us to help you increase revenues in your 
> business, 
> > > by providing you with new product like the Declude Gateway which 
> > > would be independent of Imail/SmarterMail and will 
> include CommTouch.
> > > 
> > > David B
> > > www.declude.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of 
> > > John T
> > > (Lists)
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:02 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> > > 
> > > I guess we all missed the following paragraph in the 
> license agreement:
> > > 
> > > 3.2.6 sub-license, rent, sell, lease, distribute, or otherwise 
> > > transfer the Licensed Program save as provided under this 
> End-User 
> > > License Agreement unless You obtain a separate License 
> from Declude, 
> > > Inc. for such purposes (for example, You may not embed 
> the Licensed 
> > > Program into another application and then distribute such 
> to third 
> > > parties unless You first acquire an OEM License from 
> Declude, Inc.).
> > > As of June 1, 2006, ISP's and other service providers are not 
> > > permitted to use Declude software to clean and forward mail to 
> > > customers unless a separate revenue share agreement has been 
> > > established
> > with Declude.
> > > 
> > > http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=121
> > > 
> > > Is Declude trying to put us out of business? We pay for 
> the software 
> > > and now have to pay them some of your meager profits?
> > > 
> > > John T
> > > eServices For You
> > > 
> > > "Seek, and ye shall find!"
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf 
> > > > Of Gary Steiner
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:24 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3
> > > > 
> > > > I guess someone is going to make an official announcement today 
> > > > about
> > > Declude 4.3?
> > > > I see that its downloadable in my account, but it would 
> be nice to 
> > > > know
> > > what I'm
> > > > getting before I install it, especially the new Commtouch stuff.
> > > > 
> > > > The "Restrictions" listed next to the Add Commtouch section are 
> > > > especially
> > > confusing.
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.declude.com/articles.asp?ID=205
> > > > 
> > > > Who would use Declude and not fit the definitions of 
> the restrictions?
> > > Based on my
> > > > reading of the Restrictions, nobody who uses Declude 
> will ever be 
> > > > able to
> > > use
> > > > Commtouch.  If I am misreading this, would someone 
> please explain 
> > > > it to
> > > me?
> > > > 
> > > > Gary
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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