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---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Gary Steiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:20:56 -0400 >Basically you are telling me to ignore the Add Commtouch part of your web page >that shows up when I log in to my account. > >What I find particularly amusing is the line "Restrictions apply to service >providers." If there is anyone subscribed to this mailing list who is not a >service provider, please raise your hand. > >Isn't it generally a good idea to have your product's pricing defined before >you introduce the product? I'm sure that everyone here reading the list is >extremely curious as to what the revenue share program really is, and when it >does come out, unless you hear exclamations of "What a Bargain" coming off >this list there won't be many of us joining that program. > >Other than the Commtouch add-on, are there any other features or reasons to >upgrade to 4.3? > > > >-------- Original Message -------- >> From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:03 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 >> >> Gary, >> >> 1. Server Providers who use CommTouch as an add-in to Declude will be in >> violation of CommTouch's Terms of service. >> >> 2. Some of the benefits of CommTouch are Zero Hour virus protection and >> additional spam identifying technology such as Recurrent Pattern Detection >> Technology (RPD) recognized by key industry analysts as a leading technology >> in email outbreak detection. >> >> 3. We are in the process of defining the revenue share program and will >> provide the details to this when it is ready. >> >> David B >> www.declude.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary >> Steiner >> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:09 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 >> >> So, that being said, under what conditions can a legacy customer use >> Commtouch? >> >> Since it would seem that Commtouch is being offered as an add-on, what are >> the benefits of having Commtouch? What does it do that Declude alone does >> not? >> >> And of course it would be nice if this "revenue share program" was spelled >> out somewhere. >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:57 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 >> > >> > There are restrictions on CommTouch being used by Service Providers we >> > had to ensure that NEW customers (ie. Service Providers After 1 June >> > 06) understand the licensing restrictions. >> > >> > Current Service Providers (ie. Before 1 June 06) are under no >> > restrictions for using Declude; only the CommTouch add-in component. >> > >> > However we have managed to come to an agreement with CommTouch to >> > enable our legacy customers (ie. Service Providers Before 1 June 06) >> > to take advantage of CommTouch under a revenue share program, this >> > program is not being forced onto legacy customers but will be an >> > opportunity for us to help you increase revenues in your business, by >> > providing you with new product like the Declude Gateway which would be >> > independent of Imail/SmarterMail and will include CommTouch. >> > >> > David B >> > www.declude.com >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> > John T >> > (Lists) >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:02 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 >> > >> > I guess we all missed the following paragraph in the license agreement: >> > >> > 3.2.6 sub-license, rent, sell, lease, distribute, or otherwise >> > transfer the Licensed Program save as provided under this End-User >> > License Agreement unless You obtain a separate License from Declude, >> > Inc. for such purposes (for example, You may not embed the Licensed >> > Program into another application and then distribute such to third >> > parties unless You first acquire an OEM License from Declude, Inc.). >> > As of June 1, 2006, ISP's and other service providers are not >> > permitted to use Declude software to clean and forward mail to >> > customers unless a separate revenue share agreement has been established >> with Declude. >> > >> > http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=121 >> > >> > Is Declude trying to put us out of business? We pay for the software >> > and now have to pay them some of your meager profits? >> > >> > John T >> > eServices For You >> > >> > "Seek, and ye shall find!" >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> > > Gary Steiner >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:24 AM >> > > To: [email protected] >> > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3 >> > > >> > > I guess someone is going to make an official announcement today >> > > about >> > Declude 4.3? >> > > I see that its downloadable in my account, but it would be nice to >> > > know >> > what I'm >> > > getting before I install it, especially the new Commtouch stuff. >> > > >> > > The "Restrictions" listed next to the Add Commtouch section are >> > > especially >> > confusing. >> > > >> > > https://www.declude.com/articles.asp?ID=205 >> > > >> > > Who would use Declude and not fit the definitions of the restrictions? >> > Based on my >> > > reading of the Restrictions, nobody who uses Declude will ever be >> > > able to >> > use >> > > Commtouch. If I am misreading this, would someone please explain it >> > > to >> > me? >> > > >> > > Gary >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --- >> > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type >> > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at >> > > http://www.mail-archive.com. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type >> > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at >> > http://www.mail-archive.com. >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type >> > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at >> > http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, >> just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe >> Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at >> http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > >--- >This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
