Here is what I want to see in the spam filtering solution.

1) The ability to automatically create a spam/junkmail folder at the user
level whenever a newuser is created. 
2) The ability to route items marked as spam to that folder at the user
level.  
3) The ability to delete items from the spam folder after x number of days.

I have been told all this can be done but I have never seen a straight
forward way to do it.

Checking the  spam filters is our most time consuming activity.  Eliminating
holding any spam above the user level would avoid a lot of problems and
wasted time.  A poll of our customers showed that tagging spam was not
helpful to them.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Status


Hi,

Let me make a few observations:

- if it wasn't for the discussion on business policy, this list would not be
busy at all. In fact, I note that I seldom see any new technical issues
being discussed.

- I understand that people from either side of the fence have various
opinions about business decisions/policy - and I think everyone has voiced
their opinions. Which is good.

- I am very encouraged to see Declude personnel being very accessible on
this list, responding to technical issues on the list and off-list in an
informed and capable manner. I deeply feel that someone is at last taking
"ownership" of the product and its customers again.  Let's not frustrate
those individuals.

- I am pleased to see that there have been a few new Declude builds that
addressed a few issues and have not introduced big "gotchas".

- I do understand that some Declude customers have a list of outstanding
problems that have not yet been addressed - but it does sound as if we do
have their ear and they are trying to work the list.

- I also agree that Declude has not added some sorely missed features in the
past years. On the other hand, integrating a virus scanner with automatic
update is something that many less-savvy administrators truly needed and
certainly does count as a valuable offering. Offering a Sniffer alternative
to SOME Declude customers (albeit not all), certainly can't be discounted
either. 

- I don't know if those of us who have been holding off the upgrades are
simply a very vocal majority - or if there are indeed only a few satisfied
Declude 3.x / 4.x customers. I installed it on one of my co-lo customer's
system last week - and it's been running fine (although with comparably
moderate load).

My suggestion is this:
Now that everyone had a chance to voice their position regarding Declude
business policies/strategies, let everyone determine for themselves if any
more posts on this issue really introduce new facts/facets - or if we are
just keeping the thread alive for S/M and/or revenge purposes. I would love
for the list to go back to discussing/prioritizing technical issues as this
will help Declude advance their product for their and our benefit.

I don't know if Declude will remain a vendor we can rely on - but I think
after offering our opinions - we should ALL be allowed to get back to work.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 


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