Agreed Andy.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:31 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude not modifying subject line

Hi David:

Pardon me - but lets not forget that we choose to pay Declude license and
maintenance fees, precisely because of its claim of being superior in
detecting viruses, vulnerabilities and RFC violations that other components
are known to letting through.

When your business model is based on the premise that you will be closing
the holes that other components leave, then Declude cannot retreat behind an
argument that you are "only as defect as the other guys".

Clearly, if Imail/Smartermail did act appropriately and offered all the
features it should, then you wouldn't have a customer base in the first
place.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:02 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude not modifying subject line

Herb,

I need to clarify something here. This source of this problem is that these
messages do not conform to the RFC's and are extremely broken and should not
be accepted by the mail server in the first place. That is the source of the
problem, Declude is showing the symptom. Have you approached
SmarterMail/Imail and asked them to fix this issue, either not accept the
message or apply message standardization ? What was their response ?

With that said, we are working on correcting this problem because clearly
the Mail server is not doing it. 

Secondly, there are alternatives to marking the Subject line and having the
mail server take action based on the headers. You could use actions like.

# MAILBOX  will move the E-mail to a user's folder (no, not a Windows
directory)
# ROUTETO will re-route the E-mail to an alternate address # HOLD will hold
the message in the spool\spam directory.

David B  




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