Ditto.  I've been wanting the same functionality.

Darin.


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From: Matt 
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] method for reducing CPU load


Scott,

This is exactly what I have wanted Declude to do for over two years now all the 
way down to the spec.  This would add low and high skip weight functionality to 
all filters, external apps and anything else that might be skippable, and do so 
by using the config in such a way that could easily be backwards compatible 
when not specified (you would assume null null to be 0 0 and consider that 
disabled).

This would save tremendously in loading filter files and launching external 
apps.  I for instance have this functionality in one of my external apps, but 
it still has to be run in order for the weight skipping mechanism to operate.  
Other external apps have no weight skipping built into them and this would add 
the much needed functionality to save resources.

Matt



Scott Fisher wrote: 
  I've been mulling this one over as I watch my spam filtering CPU time slowly 
taking over the email server. And I don't expect the number of emails to go 
down.

  For external programs and filters I think it would be a good idea to add two 
optional fields to the global.cfg definition line: a minweight and a maxweight. 
These would be the last two arguments and optional so existing configs would 
not need to be changed.

  For an external program:
  INV-URIBL external  25 "D:\INVURIBL.exe %WEIGHT% %REMOTEIP%"  25 0
  would become
  INV-URIBL external  25 "D:\INVURIBL.exe %WEIGHT% %REMOTEIP%"  25 0  -50  300
  in this case invuribl would only get run if the current weight was between 
-50 and 300.

  For a filter:
  ATTACHMENT-GIF  filter    D:\ATTACHMENT-GIF.txt   x   0   0 
  would become
  ATTACHMENT-GIF  filter    D:\ATTACHMENT-GIF.txt   x   0   0   -50  300
  in this case the attachment-gif filter would only get processed if the 
current weight was between -50 and 300

  Here's why I think this is a good idea:
  Declude could check the weights before launching the external program. If it 
is over/under weight the external program would not be launched.
  2 if statements to avoid launching a program. That seems like a CPU time 
saver. Especially when multiplied by 10,000s of emails per day.
  I use 6 external programs. I believe over half of the program launches would 
be avoided because of stuff that has already been declared obvious ham or 
obvious spam.
  My final of the 6 programs, gets weight skipped over 90% of the time. 
  At 10,000 emails a day, avoiding 50% of the external programs would save 
30,000 program launches a day. I believe my 50% to be a conservative number and 
I think that the percentage would average out to be even higher.

  Now I have about one hundred filters. The vast majority of them get triggered 
with the skipweight since the email is already at a high spam weight by the 
time it reaches the filters.
  But still every one of these filter files needs to be opened, read and closed 
for every email.
  Again 2 IF statements per filter could avoid opening 100 files. That seems to 
me to be a CPU time saver.
  By the time, email reaches the filters, I think 75% of it is bypassing 
filters by being over the skipweight. At 10,000 emails a day (small to many of 
us). That would mean 750,000 filter files a day would not need to be open, read 
and closed.

  From the programming side, I don't believe the coding changes to be too 
difficult. Weight verification/processing code already exists in the Declude 
program. It would just need to be relocated.

  I'm a pretty small user here, getting about 14,000 spams on a weekday. 
Imagine the potential CPU savings for scaling this up to an ISP with 100,000 
emails per day.

  I don't know if this would have an impact on saving my CPU or not, but it has 
to help even if it is a little.
  Please consider this.

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