Hi Andy,

The directives are for tuning both single and multiprocessor systems.  They
are not meant as a tradeoff.  Some multiprocessor systems do not exhibit the
reported sleep for 30 seconds behavior.  We have not been able to reproduce
it ourselves.  This doesn't mean that we do not take it seriously nor does
it mean that we have given up.  I picked up another dual processor machine
tonight and tomorrow we will attempt to reproduce the reported behavior on
it.  It's hard to fix something that we can't reproduce but we will keep
trying.  It's not even clear to me that this problem still exists in the
latest version.  But until the issue is resolved I can assure you we will
not give up.  If you are having this or any other problems please send us
your configuration files along with system specs and log files, debug level
is best.

The beta is a success thanks to our customers and we do appreciate your
efforts.  We set out to fix the 8.2 issues.  We have accomplished that and
fixed some other stuff along the way.  The product will not ship bug free.
But I do assure you that we will prioritize and address every issue that we
know of.

Once we have this baseline release, along with fixing bugs we plan on
implement some cool new stuff that you guys have asked for. 

It's precisely because this is a wonderfully active and sharing community
that Declude is the premier email vulnerability software solution.  Let's
keep the dialog, observations, and ideas flowing and I promise that Declude
will become even better.

All the best,
Bill

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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:56 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

Hi David,

I can't help but ask...

You are proposing options that will "help" with the dual processor issue.
But, are you REPRODUCING the issue and fixing it? I understand that the
problem is that the service goes to sleep for 30 seconds, even though there
are messages in the PROC folder. Clearly that should not happen.  Changing
the "timings" will only create a trade-off by consuming extra
machine-resources.

Even on a dual-processor system should the service be able to determine
reliably if a folder has content or not?  

I'm just worried that the beta is declared "successful" when an entire class
of machines is only working with a bandage.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

Yes, these are to help adjust for timing with Dual-proc

Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings.  

In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization.

1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded 

You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS.

2. FAST server
Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization.

When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that
the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. 

The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests,
other processes, etc.  If the system is spiking but coming down quickly
that's good.

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:27 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

David,
        Are these to be used to correct issues with Dual-proc, or is that
still an ongoing issue still be looking at?  Thanks for the time.

Keith

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Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted


2 new Directives

WAITFORTHREADS      1500
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds
this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time
specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads.      
        
WAITBETWEENTHREADS         1
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond
The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another
thread.

David B
www.declude.com

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