Hi Andrew, Hey hold it, that's something new. I was not aware there was a difference in putting a mail back in the spool or the proc folder.
As it has been put to me using the "Old Declude": I had to put the D and Q file back in spool and Imail would process it once again and Declude would ignore it because it had seen the message before. That would prevent it from getting caught again. I assumed there would be no difference from putting it back in proc as that is just the next step in the chain. If I read your reply correct what you say is: If I put in spool IMail will handle it without passing it to Declude, if I put in proc then Declude will handle it once again. About "fixing the problem", sometimes I don't want to do that as there is nothing to fix. The sender may be listed in several anti spam databases and there is nothing I want to fix but the message needs to be delivered anyway. So if it gets caught again because the sender ip is still listed... that is not what I want, I need to have it delivered to the users mailbox. Met vriendelijke groet, Bonno Bloksma hoofd systeembeheer tio hogeschool hospitality en toerisme begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.tio.nl ----- Original Message ----- From: Colbeck, Andrew To: declude.virus@declude.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG For what it's worth, I never move messages from HOLD to SPOOL. When I do move false positives out, I fix the problem in my configuration, so that the same circumstance doesn't happen again, and then I move the files from the HOLD to the PROC folder. By re-scanning them, they get virus scanned and I am sure that I have saved time by getting spam scanned as well; it would cost me more time to repeat the procedure next time than it takes me to override my text filters and re-queue the messages now. Very few messages get pulled out of the HOLD folder, so not scanning those messages for viruses saves me a lot of processing power. Andrew. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:00 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG Correct if you send held email directly to the spool there is a potential for a virus to bypass if running AVAFTERJM this is why it is important to correct the issue that caused the false positive then reprocess via Declude. OR alternately ensure you virus scan your HOLD folders. If you are asking to only to apply AVAFTERJM only to Deleted emails this would reduce it's effectiveness as not every Declude customer uses Delete. David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bonno Bloksma Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:30 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG Hi David, Could you explain this: We have chosen not to do this otherwise your users will end up with viruses in their junkmail folders By NOT scanning held junkmail the virus WILL end up in a users mailbox if I have to reque the mail because it was a FP. Of course you don't have to scan deleted mail. Met vriendelijke groet, Bonno Bloksma hoofd systeembeheer tio hogeschool hospitality en toerisme begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.tio.nl ----- Original Message ----- From: David Barker To: declude.virus@declude.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG Dear Bonno, It is not that we can't do this. We have chosen not to do this otherwise your users will end up with viruses in their junkmail folders. AVAFTERJM will skip messages on DELETE and HOLD actions only. David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bonno Bloksma Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:20 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG Hi, (Open mail request) Dear Declude people. I have asked this before and with the current spam levels kan we PLEASE have this feature now ASAP? We all want to use AVAFTERJM but could you PLEASE make it scan all mail which is not deleted? If that is a to big step at first becasue of all the possible copy, routeto, etc statements can we at least have it for the HOLD action asap? Met vriendelijke groet, Bonno Bloksma hoofd systeembeheer tio hogeschool hospitality en toerisme begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.tio.nl ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Bilbee To: declude.virus@declude.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG Be careful with this setting. If a message gets held as spam it will not be virus scanned. Make sure you scan any message moved back into the delivery queue for viruses before placing it in the delivery queue folder. Kevin Bilbee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Darin Cox > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:10 AM > To: declude.virus@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG > > AVAFTERJM has been around a long time. I don't remember what version, > but > it was a 1.x version. > > Are you familiar with the setting? It tells Declude to run Anti-Virus > after > Junkmail. It then only runs AV after checking to see if the message is > spam. With the spam load these days, I would expect that to be the > desired > config, resulting in AV scanning on only about 10% of incoming mail > instead > of 100%. However, it is not the default setting, which runs AV first, > then > Junkmail. > > That could easily account for yours and Kathy's 70-100% CPU. > > Darin. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <declude.virus@declude.com> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG > > > No, I am still using antique version declude and > imail. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <declude.virus@declude.com> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG > > > > Interesting that you are also seeing the 70-100% CPU with F-Prot 6, > where > > we > > are not. > > > > Are you running AVAFTERJM? > > > > Darin. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <declude.virus@declude.com> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:23 AM > > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG > > > > > > I just terminate my F-Prot 6, and installed ClamAV SOSDG > > > > Before that, my CPU usage is always run to skyhigh, > > at around 70%-100%, now using ClamAV, reduce > > to 5%-20%, still catching all the testing virus. > > > > F-prot 6 do not provide option like noboot, nomem, > > I guess these become the default setting, and cause > > very high CPU and harddisk usage. > > > > Alex instruction dated at 6 June 2008 for ClamAV installation > > is very helpful, thanks! > > The main tricks in clamav are: > > 1: need to install the contributors' tools, then get > > two dedicated tools for declude, can run the > > clamdscan as service. > > > > 2: need to remove --mbox, if this is there, it will > > not function. > > > > Brian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <declude.virus@declude.com> > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 > > > > > >>I think VIRUSCODE 1 need to be added too? > >> http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/310.html > >> > >> Anyway, using F-Prot 6 seems very slow compare with previous F-Prot > 3, > >> I do not know the exact reason. I have try to reduce scanlevel, > heulevel, > >> archive to 0 or 1, still very slow, I guess it is now scanning > memory by > >> default? > >> > >> Another question is , for REPORT=report.txt > >> do we need < >? REPORT=<report.txt> > >> > >> from instruction here, looks like need < > > >> http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/445.html > >> > >> but most users online post seems < > is not necessary. > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <declude.virus@declude.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:34 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 > >> > >> > >>> Assuming the default location for program installation, here you > go. > >>> > >>> SCANFILE C:\PROGRA~1\FRISKS~1\F-PROT~1\fpscan.exe /VERBOSE=0 > /ARCHIVE=5 > >>> /scanlevel=4 /heurlevel=3 /REPORT=report.txt > >>> > >>> /VERBOSE=0 corresponds to the old /SILENT switch > >>> /TYPE is assumed now > >>> /ARCHIVE has changed to /ARCHIVE=5 > >>> /NOMEM, /NOBOOT, /DUMB, /AI, and /SERVER are defunct > >>> /SCANLEVEL and /HEURLEVEL are new switches. The values above are > >>> recommended > >>> > >>> See the FProt 6 manual for more info on conversion of switches, and > >>> desired > >>> settings > >>> > >>> Also, while the old > >>> > >>> VIRUSCODE 3 > >>> VIRUSCODE 6 > >>> VIRUSCODE 8 > >>> > >>> is most likely sufficient, we added > >>> > >>> VIRUSCODE 3 > >>> VIRUSCODE 5 > >>> VIRUSCODE 6 > >>> VIRUSCODE 7 > >>> VIRUSCODE 8 > >>> VIRUSCODE 9 > >>> VIRUSCODE 10 > >>> VIRUSCODE 11 > >>> VIRUSCODE 13 > >>> VIRUSCODE 14 > >>> VIRUSCODE 15 > >>> VIRUSCODE 17 > >>> VIRUSCODE 18 > >>> VIRUSCODE 19 > >>> VIRUSCODE 21 > >>> VIRUSCODE 22 > >>> VIRUSCODE 23 > >>> VIRUSCODE 25 > >>> VIRUSCODE 26 > >>> VIRUSCODE 27 > >>> VIRUSCODE 29 > >>> VIRUSCODE 30 > >>> VIRUSCODE 31 > >>> VIRUSCODE 33 > >>> VIRUSCODE 34 > >>> VIRUSCODE 35 > >>> VIRUSCODE 37 > >>> VIRUSCODE 38 > >>> VIRUSCODE 39 > >>> VIRUSCODE 41 > >>> VIRUSCODE 42 > >>> VIRUSCODE 43 > >>> VIRUSCODE 45 > >>> VIRUSCODE 46 > >>> VIRUSCODE 47 > >>> VIRUSCODE 49 > >>> VIRUSCODE 50 > >>> VIRUSCODE 51 > >>> VIRUSCODE 53 > >>> VIRUSCODE 54 > >>> VIRUSCODE 55 > >>> VIRUSCODE 57 > >>> VIRUSCODE 58 > >>> VIRUSCODE 59 > >>> VIRUSCODE 61 > >>> VIRUSCODE 62 > >>> VIRUSCODE 63 > >>> > >>> for completeness. > >>> > >>> Hope this helps, > >>> > >>> Darin. > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <declude.virus@declude.com> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:46 AM > >>> Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 > >>> > >>> > >>> Can anyone provide a SCANFILE line that they know works with F-PROT > 6 ? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> David B > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. 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