My experience using VS with Chrome just to build a couple test projects is that they run as good as any Delphi app I could build to do the same. But under Delphi's .NET this does not appear to be true, at least when running thru the IDE. There's was at least twice as long in appearing on careen after the initial compile! But my real peeve is not with .NET or the underlying compilers used, it's with the development environments! Delphi's feels and works like a homemade project compared to VS and Chrome! It's slow, buggy, and full of quirks that you can't even put a label on. The only thing I can say bad about VS and Chrome so far is that there isn't any syntax check you can do. But even that is just because I'm used to using it in Delphi. The time it takes for a syntax check is no different than that of a compile!
>From "Robert Meek" Personal e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dba / "Tangentals Design" Visit us at: www.TangentalsDesign.com Home of "The Keep"! Member of: "Association of Shareware Professionals" Moderator for: "The Delphi", "Delphi-DB", and "Delphi-Talk" programming lists at elists.org, and proud to be a donator to the Jedi VCL 3.0. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lucek Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 7:21 AM To: 'Delphi-Talk Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ignorance > I know you all are having problems with Delphi 2005, but this charge into >.NET only seems to be taking hold in the US. Not only the US, where I don't reside, but in other countries and probably Europe. Not every company in every country is embracing .NET but a lot are. You would have to have a massive amount of clients in Europe if you can categorically state that Europe is slow in adapting this technology. > It sucks. I can nearly see the form being painted it is >so slow. If written in Delhi 2005 then maybe, if written with VS then no. The commercial stuff I've written and also have seen is certainly not slow, in fact quite fast. One of the leading film editing applications used in Hollywood is written in C# using VS and it certainly is not slow. Actually it was written by colleagues of mine. The other thing, you seem to be making a very judgmental opinion of a technology you haven't even tried. Judge it only if you try it. > I don't want my clients accusing me of writing slow code! A decent developer would make sure that they don't write slow code irrespective of the programming language or platform. >you would be all advised to recommend to your clients >to take a more reticent and measured approach to the roll-out of .NET for >application EXE's. Why? Do you have any experience in .NET to support this argument? Have you seen any .NET commercial stuff? Try it and then share your thoughts. Look we know that Delphi is good, or was prior to D2005, however at times we have to remove ourselves from this tunnel vision approach and admit that another development environment has surfaced, is used by many more developers than the total Delphi community, has a solid IDE and allows the developers to be productive, rather than stuffing around with AV's before a single line of code is written. Or going out to lunch waiting for "Hello World" to compile. Mike -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren McBride Sent: Monday, 23 May 2005 6:38 PM To: 'Delphi-Talk Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ignorance I know you all are having problems with Delphi 2005, but this charge into .NET only seems to be taking hold in the US. Over here in Europe we are a bit more relaxed about adopting this SLOWER technology (and no-one can tell me different), and it is only being adopted for tiny projects in any of my clients at present. We are working with Delphi for the front-end of one of our core products, and based on what I am seeing from .NET during our consultancy projects, you would be all advised to recommed to your clients to take a more reticent and measured approach to the roll-out of .NET for application EXE's. It sucks. I can nearly see the form being painted it is so slow. .NET may be great for middle-tier or web apps, but I prefer to stick to plain old Delphi for EXE's and will do for the next few years. I don't want my clients accusing me of writing slow code!! Delphi 6 will be with me for some time yet. Good luck to those who change over though. Darren __________________________________________________ Delphi-Talk mailing list -> [email protected] http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __________________________________________________ Delphi-Talk mailing list -> [email protected] http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk
