What Borland did to Delphi is really rather sad. And now Borland is owned by some company that I'd never heard of until the purchase (actually I heard about it on the StackOverflow podcast - even then I thought it was Joel talking crap like he often does) http://www.microfocus.com/Solutions/TestingASQ/WelcomeBorlandCustomers/PressRelease.asp I don't know why Borland didn't keep doing what it did successfully for so many years.
Embaradero seem to be doing a pretty good job with Delphi - and admittedly I hadn't heard of them either until they acquired CodeGear. However I can't see them gaining significant market share from Micro$oft in the developer tools market, it would be nice if they did though. Alister Christie Computers for People Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266 http://www.salespartner.co.nz PO Box 13085 Johnsonville Wellington Steve Peacocke wrote: > Agreed. Borland went away from its core competency to enter into a > market it was ill prepared for. It tried to recoup some of the costs > and losses by upping the cost of the core developer's tool (Delphi) > until it cost the value greater than the cost of a good second hand car. > > It's total focus away from the developer and it's huge cost of delphi > meant that most NZ companies went away from Delphi to another tool > that offered more, easier and cheaper upgrades. Boreland effectively > killed the cash-cow through over-excessive milking. > > Thankfully they are looking good to recover slightly, although > regaining the customer base they had previously is probably now out of > their range. > > Steve Peacocke > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Kyley Harris > <ky...@harrissoftware.com <mailto:ky...@harrissoftware.com>> wrote: > > "Really one reason Borland went broke is that they made an IDE > that could be > used forever.." > > No.. they went broke spending tons of money buying 3rd party tools > and trying to sell them for a fortune to recoup the buy cost.. at > the same time they damn near abandoned the concept of putting out > and supporting the Core Development tools and focused on buggy > integration tools with all the extras they purchased.. > > They were doing great as a company for Programmers.. Tried to > become a company for lifecycle development and stuffed up. > > Still.. with Delphi 2007 I've been quite happy. > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM, John Bird > <johnkb...@paradise.net.nz <mailto:johnkb...@paradise.net.nz>> wrote: > > I think in general the upgrade policy has been quite generous, > as others say > other companies are much worse. > > Take Microsoft - As a Vista user of 1 year I get no reduced > price upgrade > to Windows 7. Vista is V6.0, Windows 7 internally is ictually > Windows 6.1 > and could be argued is not even a new version at all - they > are as similar > as Windows 2000 (V5.0) and Windows XP (V5.1) were. > > D2007 versus 7 - have to say the D2007 use of IDE screen is a > lot better for > a single screen on a laptop. And like others I have the D7 > help loaded - > actually the D2007 help is not so bad, just slow at times. > > Really one reason Borland went broke is that they made an IDE > that could be > used forever.. > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz <mailto:delphi@delphi.org.nz> > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz > <mailto:delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz> with Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > -- > Kyley Harris > Harris Software > +64-21-671-821 > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz <mailto:delphi@delphi.org.nz> > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz > <mailto:delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz> with Subject: unsubscribe > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > unsubscribe _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
