Thanks for getting to the heart of the matter Jolyon, "I may be wrong, but I think Paul was more concerned about a stated intention made to him by Dev-Inc to take a matter up with Borland on his behalf and then a complete lack of any sort of feedback from Dev-Inc until what seemed to him to be a condescending comment about his current situation." Let others judges what is "rude" - being left with a deficient IDE and no backup? Or ...
Paul 2009/9/16 Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> > > > I may be wrong, but I think Paul was more concerned about a stated > intention made to him by Dev-Inc to take a matter up with Borland on his > behalf and then a complete lack of any sort of feedback from Dev-Inc until > what seemed to him to be a condescending comment about his current > situation. > > > > But as for that $500-$600 price you quote ... That’s a little disingenuous > don’t you think? Current pricing for Delphi 2010 Pro (Named User) is * > $750* incl GST. Or were you making an offer of a discount for DUG > subscribers? J > > > > Remember that many community users are not GST registered. In many cases > we may work for companies that are, but when maintaining our *own*licenses we > have to pay the full asking price and often we don’t have > customers from whom to recoup the cost. > > > > I’d also point out that the recent Delphi versions offer themselves up – or > are offered up by CodeGear or others - for comparison with Visual Studio, in > which endeavour they fail in one key respect... the lack of an entirely FREE > edition. (There isn’t even an entry level SKU comparable to “Standard” > edition Visual Studio) > > > > I’d like to prefix “current” to that word “lack”, but have no reason to do > so at the moment. > > > > > > *From:* delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] > *On Behalf Of *Richard Vowles > *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:16 > *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > *Subject:* Re: [DUG] A change in upgrade policy coming from Embarcadero > > > > 2009/9/16 Paul A Norman <paul.a.nor...@gmail.com> > > And I have heard nothing until Richard in this Forum smirked last night was > I actually using 2005? > > > > So is that the level of support and followup we can expect? > > > That was quite rude Paul. > > Paul, I am not, and have never been the reason you continue to use Delphi > 2005. I am also not responsible for the quality of Delphi 2005 and given > most people downgraded back to Delphi 7, find it hugely surprising you > continue to use Delphi 2005. IMHO, Borland was responsible for Delphi 2005, > CodeGear and Embarcadero have apologised enough for this version and have > spent considerable time, money and effort to make subsequent versions that > they actually own and are responsible for the best quality releases we have > seen in a long time. But they are a business and need to make money. It is > time to move on. I pay for my development tools and continue to invest in > them - they are part of what I do to make myself a better developer and > produce code more effectively for my customers. Tools, like time, training > and all other effort is something you invest in IMHO, and if you feel the > time you spend with a less than effective tool is worth more than the cost > of upgrading to a product owned by a completely different, there is little I > feel the need to do about it. > > I'm afraid $500-600 every 18 months for a new version of a Delphi Pro which > provides such incredible value would be the least of my decision making > points. Given I could delay that under current upgrade policy for years and > still pay the same amount for an even greater jump in productivity and > capability makes the cost of the upgrade, in my opinion, a no brainer. I > however, am a professional software developer. > > Richard > > -- > --- > Richard Vowles, Technical Advisor > Developers Inc Ltd > web. http://www.developers-inc.co.nz > ph. +64-9-3600231, mob. +64-275-467747, fax. +64-9-3600384 > skype. rvowles, LinkedIn, Twitter > > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > unsubscribe >
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