Dear David, That is what they say, you may want to ask specific questions on their forums.
http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php Paul On 1 April 2011 15:17, David Brennan <dugda...@dbsolutions.co.nz> wrote: > So does that compile to proper Windows 64 bit then? > > > > David. > > > > From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On > Behalf Of Paul A Norman > Sent: Friday, 1 April 2011 2:46 p.m. > > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition > > > > Hi Todd, > > > > Wow - check this out, it looks > amazing, http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96&Itemid=147 > > > > Come a long way forward from when I last looked years ago, a Lazarus based > Free Pascal Compiler that now even apparently cross compiles from Windows to > various linux distributions and WinCE, heaps of extra components > pre-installed. > > > > Paul > > On 23 March 2011 16:44, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Paul > >> >> That is now very much on my todo list. >> >> Quite feasible now - with the Delphi pricing structure as it has been, we >> went into maintainance mode on everything Delphi based, so some of our new >> projects could essentially be started in Lazarus in theory. >> > > That's what I was thinking, when you said you were looking at the > starter edition. > >> What's it like for MacOs building? > > Sorry. I don't know that. Better than Delphi though :) > > Todd. > >> Paul >> >> On 22 March 2011 22:33, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul >>> >>> I suggest you get Lazarus 9.30 from the repository and FPC 2.4.2+ >>> http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/tags >>> >>> Todd. >>> >>>> Experimented with it a while ago, and was surprised that I really >>>> could compile a simple project for both Windows and Linux form the >>>> same source, the Linux executable was very big, but there were no >>>> dependency/versioning issues. >>>> >>>> I will have another look at it. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On 18 March 2011 00:16, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi Paul >>>>> >>>>> I don't know what features of the Delphi starter you would most likely >>>>> use, but have you considered Lazarus and the FPC compiler? Both have >>>>> made some dramatic advances recently. >>>>> >>>>> Todd. >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Joylon, >>>>>> >>>>>> >From what you are saying that would make it impossible for us to use >>>>>> the Starter Edition - I had seen Revenue as being that which was >>>>>> derived from an application made in Starter but it seems from what you >>>>>> are saying its a bit more woolly than that. >>>>>> >>>>>> We'll just have to count out pennies if we need to return to Delphi >>>>>> and look to Professional edition again (got stung when we picked up >>>>>> 2005 Pro years ago and that was a bad experience). >>>>>> >>>>>> Meanwhile will continue as we have been for some time now, apart from >>> Delphi. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Finding with careful planning, and even without Titanium Applicator, >>>>>> you can do a tremendous amount for people with just XAMPP and a >>>>>> virtual box under Windows (Ubuntu is good in the box), nice clean no >>>>>> fuss install of a whole application using browser technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14 March 2011 09:12, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>>> I don't think you can rely on your charitable status to avoid the >>> ridiculous >>>>>>> $1000 license condition as that is $1000 *revenue*, not profit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Quite how revenue is defined and how Embarcadero would identify and >>>>>>> apportion income as deriving from "Starter built apps or services" is >>> not >>>>>>> specified. If you create some code that is used in an area of a web >>> site >>>>>>> that also has a "donate" facility, for example... does the income >>> from >>>>>>> those donations count? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no special allowance made for non-profit organizations and >>>>>>> charitable donations are not specifically identified separately from >>>>>>> "income", so it seems impossible to say for sure that your use of >>> Delphi >>>>>>> Starter would be certain to fall under the < US$1000 revenue >>>>>>> threshold >>>>>>> (unless your use of Delphi is entirely and utterly not connected with >>> any >>>>>>> income/donation generating activity in your organisation). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You could just hope that they never come knocking on your door as ask >>> to see >>>>>>> your accounts and set about trying to prove that your license is >>> invalid >>>>>>> (tho actually the boot would be on the other foot - it would no doubt >>> be up >>>>>>> to you to prove that your license *is* valid, not the other way >>> around), but >>>>>>> one would have to think that if they didn't intend ever following >>> through >>>>>>> and applying this revenue limit then they wouldn't have bothered >>> adding it >>>>>>> to the license conditions in the first place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Speaking for myself, I think the revenue limit on the license is a >>> mistake >>>>>>> (almost as ridiculous as the imposition of Interbase and the removal >>> of >>>>>>> DBExpress) but sadly not one that I expect Embarcadero to correct any >>> time >>>>>>> soon, if ever. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto: >>> delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Paul A Norman >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2011 15:37 >>>>>>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Joylon and Todd, that has sorted that out, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... I had been wondering the way things were worded whether you could >>>>>>> use 3rd party things like Zeos, or if databasing capabilities were >>>>>>> limited strictly to only what was described in the feature matrix. >>>>>>> (Remembering the Turbo thingies they put out that didn't even let >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> add components.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are charitable non-commercial (take no payments) so I take it we >>>>>>> would fit under the $USD1000 at all times? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9 March 2011 17:11, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Paul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ZEOS certainly connects to MySql. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Todd. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looking through the feature matrix, I was not sure, can Delphi >>> Starter >>>>>>>>> connect to an MySql database on local or other server please? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 31 January 2011 21:06, Malcolm Groves < >>> malcolm.gro...@embarcadero.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Malcolm >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Malcolm Groves >>>>>>>>>> Senior Director, Asia Pacific and Japan >>>>>>>>>> Embarcadero Technologies >>>>>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Phone: +61 416 264 204 >>>>>>>>>> Skype: malcolmgroves >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of >>> the >>>>>>> intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >>>>>>> information. 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