Hi Paul > > That is now very much on my todo list. > > Quite feasible now - with the Delphi pricing structure as it has been, we > went into maintainance mode on everything Delphi based, so some of our new > projects could essentially be started in Lazarus in theory. > That's what I was thinking, when you said you were looking at the starter edition.
> What's it like for MacOs building? Sorry. I don't know that. Better than Delphi though :) Todd. > Paul > > On 22 March 2011 22:33, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Paul >> >> I suggest you get Lazarus 9.30 from the repository and FPC 2.4.2+ >> http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/tags >> >> Todd. >> >>> Experimented with it a while ago, and was surprised that I really >>> could compile a simple project for both Windows and Linux form the >>> same source, the Linux executable was very big, but there were no >>> dependency/versioning issues. >>> >>> I will have another look at it. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On 18 March 2011 00:16, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Paul >>>> >>>> I don't know what features of the Delphi starter you would most likely >>>> use, but have you considered Lazarus and the FPC compiler? Both have >>>> made some dramatic advances recently. >>>> >>>> Todd. >>>> >>>>> Thanks Joylon, >>>>> >>>>> >From what you are saying that would make it impossible for us to use >>>>> the Starter Edition - I had seen Revenue as being that which was >>>>> derived from an application made in Starter but it seems from what you >>>>> are saying its a bit more woolly than that. >>>>> >>>>> We'll just have to count out pennies if we need to return to Delphi >>>>> and look to Professional edition again (got stung when we picked up >>>>> 2005 Pro years ago and that was a bad experience). >>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile will continue as we have been for some time now, apart from >> Delphi. :) >>>>> >>>>> Finding with careful planning, and even without Titanium Applicator, >>>>> you can do a tremendous amount for people with just XAMPP and a >>>>> virtual box under Windows (Ubuntu is good in the box), nice clean no >>>>> fuss install of a whole application using browser technology. >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> On 14 March 2011 09:12, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>> I don't think you can rely on your charitable status to avoid the >> ridiculous >>>>>> $1000 license condition as that is $1000 *revenue*, not profit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Quite how revenue is defined and how Embarcadero would identify and >>>>>> apportion income as deriving from "Starter built apps or services" is >> not >>>>>> specified. If you create some code that is used in an area of a web >> site >>>>>> that also has a "donate" facility, for example... does the income >> from >>>>>> those donations count? >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no special allowance made for non-profit organizations and >>>>>> charitable donations are not specifically identified separately from >>>>>> "income", so it seems impossible to say for sure that your use of >> Delphi >>>>>> Starter would be certain to fall under the < US$1000 revenue threshold >>>>>> (unless your use of Delphi is entirely and utterly not connected with >> any >>>>>> income/donation generating activity in your organisation). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You could just hope that they never come knocking on your door as ask >> to see >>>>>> your accounts and set about trying to prove that your license is >> invalid >>>>>> (tho actually the boot would be on the other foot - it would no doubt >> be up >>>>>> to you to prove that your license *is* valid, not the other way >> around), but >>>>>> one would have to think that if they didn't intend ever following >> through >>>>>> and applying this revenue limit then they wouldn't have bothered >> adding it >>>>>> to the license conditions in the first place. >>>>>> >>>>>> Speaking for myself, I think the revenue limit on the license is a >> mistake >>>>>> (almost as ridiculous as the imposition of Interbase and the removal >> of >>>>>> DBExpress) but sadly not one that I expect Embarcadero to correct any >> time >>>>>> soon, if ever. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto: >> delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Paul A Norman >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2011 15:37 >>>>>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Joylon and Todd, that has sorted that out, >>>>>> >>>>>> ... I had been wondering the way things were worded whether you could >>>>>> use 3rd party things like Zeos, or if databasing capabilities were >>>>>> limited strictly to only what was described in the feature matrix. >>>>>> (Remembering the Turbo thingies they put out that didn't even let you >>>>>> add components.) >>>>>> >>>>>> We are charitable non-commercial (take no payments) so I take it we >>>>>> would fit under the $USD1000 at all times? >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9 March 2011 17:11, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ZEOS certainly connects to MySql. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Todd. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looking through the feature matrix, I was not sure, can Delphi >> Starter >>>>>>>> connect to an MySql database on local or other server please? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 31 January 2011 21:06, Malcolm Groves < >> malcolm.gro...@embarcadero.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Malcolm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Malcolm Groves >>>>>>>>> Senior Director, Asia Pacific and Japan >>>>>>>>> Embarcadero Technologies >>>>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phone: +61 416 264 204 >>>>>>>>> Skype: malcolmgroves >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of >> the >>>>>> intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >>>>>> information. 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