Hi Todd, Wow - check this out, it looks amazing, http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96&Itemid=147
<http://www.pilotlogic.com/sitejoom/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96&Itemid=147>Come a long way forward from when I last looked years ago, a Lazarus based Free Pascal Compiler that now even apparently cross compiles from Windows to various linux distributions and WinCE, heaps of extra components pre-installed. Paul On 23 March 2011 16:44, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Paul > > > > That is now very much on my todo list. > > > > Quite feasible now - with the Delphi pricing structure as it has been, we > > went into maintainance mode on everything Delphi based, so some of our > new > > projects could essentially be started in Lazarus in theory. > > > That's what I was thinking, when you said you were looking at the > starter edition. > > > What's it like for MacOs building? > > Sorry. I don't know that. Better than Delphi though :) > > Todd. > > > Paul > > > > On 22 March 2011 22:33, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi Paul > >> > >> I suggest you get Lazarus 9.30 from the repository and FPC 2.4.2+ > >> http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/tags > >> > >> Todd. > >> > >>> Experimented with it a while ago, and was surprised that I really > >>> could compile a simple project for both Windows and Linux form the > >>> same source, the Linux executable was very big, but there were no > >>> dependency/versioning issues. > >>> > >>> I will have another look at it. > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> > >>> On 18 March 2011 00:16, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Hi Paul > >>>> > >>>> I don't know what features of the Delphi starter you would most likely > >>>> use, but have you considered Lazarus and the FPC compiler? Both have > >>>> made some dramatic advances recently. > >>>> > >>>> Todd. > >>>> > >>>>> Thanks Joylon, > >>>>> > >>>>> >From what you are saying that would make it impossible for us to use > >>>>> the Starter Edition - I had seen Revenue as being that which was > >>>>> derived from an application made in Starter but it seems from what > you > >>>>> are saying its a bit more woolly than that. > >>>>> > >>>>> We'll just have to count out pennies if we need to return to Delphi > >>>>> and look to Professional edition again (got stung when we picked up > >>>>> 2005 Pro years ago and that was a bad experience). > >>>>> > >>>>> Meanwhile will continue as we have been for some time now, apart from > >> Delphi. :) > >>>>> > >>>>> Finding with careful planning, and even without Titanium Applicator, > >>>>> you can do a tremendous amount for people with just XAMPP and a > >>>>> virtual box under Windows (Ubuntu is good in the box), nice clean no > >>>>> fuss install of a whole application using browser technology. > >>>>> > >>>>> Paul > >>>>> > >>>>> On 14 March 2011 09:12, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> I don't think you can rely on your charitable status to avoid the > >> ridiculous > >>>>>> $1000 license condition as that is $1000 *revenue*, not profit. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Quite how revenue is defined and how Embarcadero would identify and > >>>>>> apportion income as deriving from "Starter built apps or services" > is > >> not > >>>>>> specified. If you create some code that is used in an area of a web > >> site > >>>>>> that also has a "donate" facility, for example... does the income > >> from > >>>>>> those donations count? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is no special allowance made for non-profit organizations and > >>>>>> charitable donations are not specifically identified separately from > >>>>>> "income", so it seems impossible to say for sure that your use of > >> Delphi > >>>>>> Starter would be certain to fall under the < US$1000 revenue > threshold > >>>>>> (unless your use of Delphi is entirely and utterly not connected > with > >> any > >>>>>> income/donation generating activity in your organisation). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You could just hope that they never come knocking on your door as > ask > >> to see > >>>>>> your accounts and set about trying to prove that your license is > >> invalid > >>>>>> (tho actually the boot would be on the other foot - it would no > doubt > >> be up > >>>>>> to you to prove that your license *is* valid, not the other way > >> around), but > >>>>>> one would have to think that if they didn't intend ever following > >> through > >>>>>> and applying this revenue limit then they wouldn't have bothered > >> adding it > >>>>>> to the license conditions in the first place. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Speaking for myself, I think the revenue limit on the license is a > >> mistake > >>>>>> (almost as ridiculous as the imposition of Interbase and the removal > >> of > >>>>>> DBExpress) but sadly not one that I expect Embarcadero to correct > any > >> time > >>>>>> soon, if ever. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto: > >> delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of Paul A Norman > >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2011 15:37 > >>>>>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Joylon and Todd, that has sorted that out, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ... I had been wondering the way things were worded whether you > could > >>>>>> use 3rd party things like Zeos, or if databasing capabilities were > >>>>>> limited strictly to only what was described in the feature matrix. > >>>>>> (Remembering the Turbo thingies they put out that didn't even let > you > >>>>>> add components.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We are charitable non-commercial (take no payments) so I take it we > >>>>>> would fit under the $USD1000 at all times? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Paul > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 9 March 2011 17:11, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi Paul > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ZEOS certainly connects to MySql. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Todd. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Looking through the feature matrix, I was not sure, can Delphi > >> Starter > >>>>>>>> connect to an MySql database on local or other server please? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Paul > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 31 January 2011 21:06, Malcolm Groves < > >> malcolm.gro...@embarcadero.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>>> Malcolm > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Malcolm Groves > >>>>>>>>> Senior Director, Asia Pacific and Japan > >>>>>>>>> Embarcadero Technologies > >>>>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Phone: +61 416 264 204 > >>>>>>>>> Skype: malcolmgroves > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of > >> the > >>>>>> intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > >>>>>> information. 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