Rohit
I don't subscribe to your view re "rubbish programmers", slowness (or a
certain response speed) may be their target when your revenue is
advertising :-)
Here is one thing they have done with PHP,
http://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/358/
Mind you I dont use FB
Neven
Neven,
are you implying that facebook uses some sort of compiled language.
As far as I know it uses php. Its slowness stems from them using
rubbish programmers. Every time they make a change - their
choices/decisions makes things even slower.
On 5/06/2011 10:37 p.m., Neven MacEwan wrote:
John
Debugging PHP poor? Breakpoints, hover-over variable values, step
into what more do you need? I agree with the speed thing though, No
need for compiled code until you get to facebook size.
I always thought the concept of a PHP VCL a little strange, The
statelessness of webservers and the limitations of browsers was
always going to make a rich delphi like application builder a hard
ask, almost destined to disappoint. Having said that I wouldn't
suggest anyone starting a new project go for a fat client unless
heavy graphic requirement dictated it
Neven
I use PHP already for many years and I like as it integrates nicely
and easily with HTML, CSS and JavaScript. And as Rohit explained, no
matter what language you use, for more advanced application you got
to learn HTML, CSS and JavaScript any way!
Speed might be an issue for some applications (?) but PHP is fast
enough for most applications (so why bother). I agree that the
debugging side of PHP is a bit poor, but that's all part of website
development I suppose.
I wanted to make a start with Delphi 4 PHP a couple of years ago,
but never got to it (should I?).
John C
*From:*delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *Rohit Gupta
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*Subject:* Re: [DUG] Web development
I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied
to MS. Its also very popular. I started off with Delphi for PHP.
But the investment in learning it was wasted. The only thing I use
it for is for debugging now. There is no vcl in sight.
Had t learn PHP, javascript, HTML and CSS. I think you have to , if
you want it efficient. Mine has to be as I am targeting millions of
users not just hundreds. It is my spare time project too. Check it
out if you want 7bfaces.com. You have to signup to see it and
note its work in progress.
On 3/06/2011 4:57 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Thanks Berend,
I'm not doing this for a job but working on my on applications at
home in my spare time. I've been programming for many years but not
as a job since about 2005.
My next project will be totally web based and I've been thinking
that I'd need to make the move to RubyonRails at that point, but
before I make that commitment, I wondered if anyone was using Delphi
successfully on good advanced web projects - or something else. I
know the C#.NET argument is a pretty good argument but for some
reasons I'm resisting that move.
Steve
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Berend de Boer <ber...@pobox.com
<mailto:ber...@pobox.com>> wrote:
>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Peacocke <st...@peacocke.net
<mailto:st...@peacocke.net>> writes:
Steve> Perhaps others have a better suggestion? What do others
Steve> use? Should I bite the bullet and jump to RoR or upgrade to
Steve> D2011 or something else?
I mean, you're learning this for fun or for having a job? Not sure how
many RoR jobs there are in NZ.
Some years ago I heard that most Delphi programmers went to PHP. The
PHP market in NZ is pretty robust, so that works.
But if you want to stay in the Microsoft World, C# + ASPX or whatever
the greatest latest technology is from M$ would be the best fit.
--
All the best,
Berend de Boer
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