Useful browser share graphs published by arstechnica today afaik:--

"Microsoft and Mozilla's continuing Chrome conundrum"

http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/06/may-browser-market-share-microsoft-and-mozillas-continuing-chrome-conundrum.ars

Paul

On 7 June 2011 14:00, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote:
> I took those observations to mean not that the "intranets" themselves rely
> on IE6 but that they are using web apps that don't behave properly in the
> new browsers.
>
> Or perhaps more accurately that they behave "properly" in the new browsers
> where "proper" is defined by the W3C, whereas "proper" used to be defined by
> the specification of the web app itself and the behaviour elicited in the
> browser by the HTML/CSS/JavaScript.
>
>
> Once upon a time, that "old" software for which there is no excuse to be
> using it used to be the cutting edge that people scoffed at you if you
> /weren't/ using it and were using what was *then* considered the "old"
> software.
>
> And I think you missed the point when observing that new browsers are
> "free".
>
>
> The problem isn't the cost of upgrading the browsers.
>
> The problem is that once you have upgraded all your clients to the new
> browser, your *apps* stop working, so you have to upgrade those apps and the
> chances are that will incur direct and indirect costs not to mention
> disruption and "downtime" to some extent.
>
>
> Even for the browser upgrades, I suspect there is still a cost because not
> all *users* are competent to upgrade themselves - we who live and breath IT
> tend to forget that many people are confused by (and can royally screw up)
> what we take for granted.  Plus, in this day and age, it's pretty certain
> that users won't be able to just upgrade their browser software without
> central IT/admin support, something that those concerned with "security"
> questions would surely characterise as "a good thing".  After all, we can't
> have everyone just able to willy nilly install/upgrade software on their
> workstations...
>
> Those who live by the sword etc...  ;)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
> Behalf Of John Bird
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 13:43
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] FW: Web development
>
> I am mystified why any government organisations would be stuck on IE6 given
> its the best door for any hacker wanting to intrude into a system.   Its how
>
> Google was penetrated 18 months ago - hackers found workstations that had to
>
> use IE6 for historical reasons (reasons that were not all that good)
>
> I was astonished about 3 years ago to see an unnamed government department
> workstation using a pre-release version of Firefox, ie it was so old it was
> basically the old Netscape - with diagonal arrow buttons and all, probably
> something like v0.5 and from probably 2003.
>
> Surely any government IT department should not be relying on such old
> unpatched software if even to cover their own backsides when the inevitable
> problem occurs - its not a budget issue if free secure browsers abound.
>
> If they have to use IE6 for intranets, do they prevent IE6 from accessing
> the outside internet?   And why can they not use later browsers for
> Intranets?
>
> John
>
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