Interesting. My AWStats for May shows IE visitors at 38.2%, Firefox at 33.1%, Chrome 18.2%. That's with 179680 hits.
IE has been steadily decreasing. In April it was 40%, March 41%. Ross. -----Original Message----- From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Paul A Norman Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 6:12 PM To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] FW: Web development Useful browser share graphs published by arstechnica today afaik:-- "Microsoft and Mozilla's continuing Chrome conundrum" http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/06/may-browser-market-share-microsoft-a nd-mozillas-continuing-chrome-conundrum.ars Paul On 7 June 2011 14:00, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote: > I took those observations to mean not that the "intranets" themselves rely > on IE6 but that they are using web apps that don't behave properly in the > new browsers. > > Or perhaps more accurately that they behave "properly" in the new browsers > where "proper" is defined by the W3C, whereas "proper" used to be defined by > the specification of the web app itself and the behaviour elicited in the > browser by the HTML/CSS/JavaScript. > > > Once upon a time, that "old" software for which there is no excuse to be > using it used to be the cutting edge that people scoffed at you if you > /weren't/ using it and were using what was *then* considered the "old" > software. > > And I think you missed the point when observing that new browsers are > "free". > > > The problem isn't the cost of upgrading the browsers. > > The problem is that once you have upgraded all your clients to the new > browser, your *apps* stop working, so you have to upgrade those apps and the > chances are that will incur direct and indirect costs not to mention > disruption and "downtime" to some extent. > > > Even for the browser upgrades, I suspect there is still a cost because not > all *users* are competent to upgrade themselves - we who live and breath IT > tend to forget that many people are confused by (and can royally screw up) > what we take for granted. Plus, in this day and age, it's pretty certain > that users won't be able to just upgrade their browser software without > central IT/admin support, something that those concerned with "security" > questions would surely characterise as "a good thing". After all, we can't > have everyone just able to willy nilly install/upgrade software on their > workstations... > > Those who live by the sword etc... ;) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On > Behalf Of John Bird > Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 13:43 > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > Subject: Re: [DUG] FW: Web development > > I am mystified why any government organisations would be stuck on IE6 given > its the best door for any hacker wanting to intrude into a system. Its how > > Google was penetrated 18 months ago - hackers found workstations that had to > > use IE6 for historical reasons (reasons that were not all that good) > > I was astonished about 3 years ago to see an unnamed government department > workstation using a pre-release version of Firefox, ie it was so old it was > basically the old Netscape - with diagonal arrow buttons and all, probably > something like v0.5 and from probably 2003. > > Surely any government IT department should not be relying on such old > unpatched software if even to cover their own backsides when the inevitable > problem occurs - its not a budget issue if free secure browsers abound. > > If they have to use IE6 for intranets, do they prevent IE6 from accessing > the outside internet? And why can they not use later browsers for > Intranets? > > John > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe > _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
