And just to make it more fun, the delphi newsgroup servers appear to be
down.
I wonder if thats to maximize the "fun" element?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "vss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:56 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG] .net practice


> Personally, I think Borland have just thrown D8 as us and said..."have
> fun. Hope you figure it out".
> Like colin said, its a big change. There is not even a prined map of the
> VCL or is it VCL for .NET or what ever.
> Its kinda cheap.
>
> My boss said, "hey cool....um...is that IT ?! wheres the manuals?"  he
> then went away some what dissappointed.....dont blame him !
>
>
> Jeremy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "C Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:22:19 +1300
> Subject: RE: [DUG] .net practice
>
> > This brings me back to my earlier post...
> >
> > Where are the manuals??? It sounds like they don't exist... I just
> > thought
> > that getting the maintenance version of Delphi 8 meant that I only got
> > the
> > manuals on CD, but there aint any there either... Just online help
> > (though I
> > have not had a thorough look thru all the CDs yet).
> >
> > With Delphi 7 you got a decent manual, with Delphi 8 being such a big
> > change, I would of thought a manual that you could sit back and read
> > would
> > be a necessity, or at least be very handy.
> >
> > Hope Borland is not shooting itself in the foot getting developers
> > frustrated... (or the other foot... The first shot for me was when I
> > got
> > maintenance cause I was told it would include Delphi 8... No one told
> > me (or
> > maybe no one knew) that it was only going to be a .net version)
> >
> > Anyway, grips aside, when I get time I will be trying to have a play
> > with
> > .net...
> >
> > Regards
> > Colin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Tracey Maule
> > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2004 2:48 p.m.
> > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > Subject: Re: [DUG] .net practice
> >
> > omg yes, i have searched the net 2 days now and nothing.  even hitting
> > F1
> > brings up "nothing on this topic"
> > grrrrrrrr
> > looks like you and i will have to write some tutorials / walkthroughs
> > when
> > we finally win the battle
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "vss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DUG] .net practice
> >
> >
> > > I have to admit I think that there is definitly missing some
> > well-defined
> > > clear documentation...sometimes called Manuals ;-)
> > >
> > > I ask Richard about websites to go to etc. I thought Borland would
> > have
> > > a "Getting started" or what ever document, but didnt know any, and
> > was
> > > going to ask, but I heard nothing back, So one would assume there is
> > > nothing.
> > >
> > > So I am with you Tracy...I am confused and very frustrated wtih D8 at
> > the
> > > moment.
> > >
> > > Jeremy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Tracey Maule" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:06:41 +1300
> > > Subject: [DUG] .net practice
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > how is everyone getting on with delphi 8?
> > > > Im lost and confused very early on in the game.
> > > >
> > > > I have created a "hello world" web app, which has a label, an input
> > > > type=text, and a submit button.
> > > >
> > > > What i am finding confusing is that when i added another aspx page,
> > set
> > > > page1.form.action=page2
> > > >
> > > > I look at the generated code for page1.form, it shows this:
> > > > <form name=bob action=webform2.aspx method=post runat="server">
> > > >
> > > > However, when i run the app, page1 is displayed, but viewing source
> > > > shows:
> > > >  <form name="_ctl0" method="post" action="WebForm1.aspx"
> > id="_ctl0">
> > > >
> > > > I have built, compiled, saved, closed, reopened, rebuilt, checked
> > only
> > > > one page1, recompiled, searched all project files for string
> > "_ctl0"
> > > > (not found), screamed at the "documentation", cried.
> > > >
> > > > such a simple thing and it has me by the... wait.. im a girl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tracey
> > > > Software Developer / Web Master
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> > > >
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