I have found a page on gtk's website that has all the version numbers they
recommend for gtk3 and win32.  I am going to use this as a template and
rebuild. I did retest and I believe it worked in vista but not in XP.

Jeremiah
On May 24, 2015 10:41 AM, "Richard Shann" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I saw that you have tried another build dated 25th May, so I tested this
> one too from the zip version and it still will not allow any window
> re-size nor run LilyPond. From all I have read it would seem likely that
> some combination of library versions and compiler versions will work,
> but I don't know how to find out which. Have you been able to re-test
> the one that appeared to work on windows vista?
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Fri, 2015-05-22 at 08:47 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Richard Shann
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >         On Thu, 2015-05-21 at 15:26 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> >         > I created new mingw binaries. This time it is based on gtk3.
> >
> >         I've downloaded and tested
> >         http://denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-mingw-0.0.0.zip
> >
> >         running Denemo.bat it complains that libaubio-4.dll is not
> >         found - I
> >         moved it from /lib to /bin and the program then started
> >         correctly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok. Thanks for letting me know.
> >
> >
> >         The good news is that the fonts are now found, and the nice
> >         gtk3
> >         features are present.
> >         However, LilyPond crashes while processing a file and Denemo
> >         crashes the
> >         moment you try to re-size a window, both symptoms exactly as
> >         before.
> >
> >         The crash when trying to move or re-size a window has probably
> >         not
> >         changed because, despite moving to gtk3 I guess that the
> >         version of glib
> >         is unaltered?
> >
> >
> >
> > I used 2.43 for both. I will try downgrading and rebuilding.
> >
> >
> >         Whether this is related to lilypond not working I'm not sure
> >
> >
> >
> > I will upgrade it to 2.18.2 or whatever the latest stable of lilypond.
> >
> >
> >         - the
> >         attached screenshot on the blue background is from running gdb
> >         lilypond.exe on a file called fbtest.ly which succeeds in
> >         earlier
> >         versions of the denemo installer. The crash in this case is
> >         reported in
> >         a memory allocation routine.
> >
> >         So the most hopeful line might be to look at which version of
> >         glib is
> >         involved in the last two builds. I guess there are also lower
> >         level
> >         things (people talk about pthreads and the compiler's
> >         libraries ...)
> >         which could be giving us the trouble.
> >
> >         We could install a piece of code at the start of main() in
> >         Denemo that
> >         - never executes the rest of Denemo's
> >         code. Then trying to resize the window should confirm that the
> >         bug is
> >         not connected with Denemo's use of threads.
> >
> >
> > Could also you try to resize the dialog window that asks you if you
> > want to import your old prefs?
> >
> >
> > I will rebuild now.
> >
> >
> > Jeremiah
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >         >
> >         > Jeremiah
> >         >
> >         > On May 13, 2015 6:51 AM, "Richard Shann"
> >         <[email protected]>
> >         > wrote:
> >         >         On Tue, 2015-05-12 at 15:40 -0500, Jeremiah Benham
> >         wrote:
> >         >         > What do you think is causing the missing don't
> >         >
> >         >         I've done some gdb debugging on the fonts thing: I
> >         noticed
> >         >         that one of
> >         >         the buttons in the horizontal palette, the one for
> >         entering
> >         >         notes in
> >         >         chords *was* showing the two quarter notes in the
> >         correct
> >         >         font. Looking
> >         >         at its label I see that it uses the gtk markup
> >         language to set
> >         >         the font
> >         >         explicitly, where the other palette buttons just
> >         assume the
> >         >         font has
> >         >         been set. The menu items and tooltips will also just
> >         assume
> >         >         the font is
> >         >         set I think. The call to set the default font is
> >         towards the
> >         >         end of
> >         >         view.c
> >         >         gtk_settings_set_string_property (settings,
> >         "gtk-font-name",
> >         >         Denemo.prefs.fontspec->str, "denemo");
> >         >
> >         >         this appears to be called twice when starting the
> >         file, but
> >         >         the
> >         >         backtrace is obscure. I tried calling it again from
> >         within gdb
> >         >         but this
> >         >         gives a crash during the call, perhaps because of
> >         not being in
> >         >         the right
> >         >         part of the gtk_main loop. In fact, mostly this gdb
> >         >         environment is
> >         >         obscure - the symbol Denemo (which should be the
> >         root object
> >         >         of all the
> >         >         Denemo data) prints as 0, and when trying to access
> >         >         Denemo.project
> >         >         (which should be the current score) gdb says Denemo
> >         is not a
> >         >         structure.
> >         >         The info threads just lists a bunch of threads
> >         in .dlls
> >         >         (whereas our
> >         >         threads now have proper names).
> >         >
> >         >         So this fonts problem is not to do with failing to
> >         install
> >         >         fonts, but
> >         >         failing to make gtk use the correct font as the
> >         default.
> >         >
> >         >         >  and the crashing?
> >         >
> >         >         this happens the instant you try to re-size a
> >         window. I found
> >         >         out
> >         >         something else too - LilyPond is crashing, windows
> >         throws up a
> >         >         window to
> >         >         say it has stopped working, while denemo itself
> >         continues to
> >         >         work ok.
> >         >         I've run it from the command line and it gets as far
> >         as
> >         >         "Preprocessing
> >         >         graphical objects" and then complains about
> >         std::bad_alloc()
> >         >
> >         >         Perhaps we might have better luck with gtk3 - at
> >         least they
> >         >         are actively
> >         >         working on that.
> >         >         >
> >         >         > I am having trouble creating binaries for Darwin.
> >         I did
> >         >         natively
> >         >         > compile denemo on Darwin but the denemo.ttf don't
> >         is not
> >         >         displaying on
> >         >         > the side or in the menu. Everything else seems
> >         fine. This
> >         >         was compiled
> >         >         > against gtk3. I don't know if the problem will be
> >         gone if I
> >         >         use gtk2.
> >         >         > What do you recommend I do?
> >         >
> >         >         This seems to be the failure to get gtk to take
> >         notice of the
> >         >         desired
> >         >         default font that I've described above. Apparently
> >         there
> >         >         are .ini type
> >         >         files in which the desired font can be specified ...
> >         >
> >          https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.8/GtkSettings.html
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         Richard
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         > Jeremiah
> >         >         >
> >         >         > On May 11, 2015 9:44 AM, "Richard Shann"
> >         >         <[email protected]>
> >         >         > wrote:
> >         >         >         I thought it might be good to check the
> >         installer
> >         >         version too
> >         >         >         - that
> >         >         >         behaves similarly, no fonts and it works
> >         until you
> >         >         try a
> >         >         >         window re-size,
> >         >         >         which is instant death.
> >         >         >
> >         >         >         Richard
> >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         >         On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 11:15 +0100, Richard
> >         Shann
> >         >         wrote:
> >         >         >         > On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 16:29 -0500,
> >         Jeremiah Benham
> >         >         wrote:
> >         >         >         > > I upgraded gtk. Maybe this will fix
> >         the problem.
> >         >         I created
> >         >         >         new mingw
> >         >         >         > > binaries.
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > I've tested the zip file version - it
> >         starts up
> >         >         with the
> >         >         >         denemo.ttf font
> >         >         >         > not found, but notes can be entered. Any
> >         attempt
> >         >         at
> >         >         >         re-sizing a window
> >         >         >         > etc causes a crash. Typesetting appears
> >         to cause a
> >         >         crash in
> >         >         >         the lilypond
> >         >         >         > process started (Denemo carries on
> >         working, but a
> >         >         microsoft
> >         >         >         visual c++
> >         >         >         > runtime library window pops up to warn
> >         of a crash,
> >         >         but it
> >         >         >         never gets
> >         >         >         > filled in - see attachment).
> >         >         >         >
> >         >         >         > Richard
> >         >         >         >
> >         >         >         >
> >         >         >         >
> >         >         >         >
> >         >         >         > > Jeremiah
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > > On May 5, 2015 9:00 AM, "Richard
> >         Shann"
> >         >         >         <[email protected]>
> >         >         >         > > wrote:
> >         >         >         > >         On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 06:21
> >         -0500,
> >         >         Jeremiah Benham
> >         >         >         wrote:
> >         >         >         > >         > I have created the mingw
> >         binaries. I
> >         >         will work
> >         >         >         on the others
> >         >         >         > >         today.
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > >         I've downloaded and run the
> >         zip file
> >         >         version -
> >         >         >         unfortunately
> >         >         >         > >         it crashes
> >         >         >         > >         on starting - it hangs the
> >         machine for
> >         >         quite a
> >         >         >         while as it
> >         >         >         > >         does this. I
> >         >         >         > >         ran it under gdb and saw that
> >         it seemed
> >         >         to be some
> >         >         >         sort of
> >         >         >         > >         thread
> >         >         >         > >         problem - I turned off the
> >         continuous
> >         >         typesetting
> >         >         >         (by editing
> >         >         >         > >         the denemo
> >         >         >         > >         rc file) and it started ok. I
> >         could
> >         >         enter a few
> >         >         >         notes and they
> >         >         >         > >         sounded
> >         >         >         > >         on entry. When I tried to
> >         typeset in the
> >         >         Print
> >         >         >         View window it
> >         >         >         > >         completely
> >         >         >         > >         hung the machine, requiring a
> >         hard
> >         >         re-boot. This
> >         >         >         is on the
> >         >         >         > >         Windows Vista
> >         >         >         > >         laptop that runs 1.2.2 without
> >         a
> >         >         problem.
> >         >         >         > >         I did another run, this time
> >         without
> >         >         trying
> >         >         >         typesetting -
> >         >         >         > >         after a while
> >         >         >         > >         it froze the machine. I found
> >         that
> >         >         ctrl-alt-del
> >         >         >         gave me access
> >         >         >         > >         to the
> >         >         >         > >         machine again and I was able
> >         to take a
> >         >         snapshot of
> >         >         >         the gdb
> >         >         >         > >         console which
> >         >         >         > >         I attach. It looks like this
> >         is
> >         >         threading problems
> >         >         >         inside the
> >         >         >         > >         gtk system
> >         >         >         > >         rather than some denemo thread
> >         problem
> >         >         (I was just
> >         >         >         changing
> >         >         >         > >         between
> >         >         >         > >         windows in Denemo when it
> >         crashed,
> >         >         rather than
> >         >         >         initiating
> >         >         >         > >         playback,
> >         >         >         > >         entering notes etc - that's no
> >         >         guarantee, of
> >         >         >         course, but my
> >         >         >         > >         gut
> >         >         >         > >         feeling).
> >         >         >         > >         I think it would help if we
> >         could get
> >         >         rid of the
> >         >         >         code that
> >         >         >         > >         prompts "Type
> >         >         >         > >         ENTER..."  - I know you have
> >         tried
> >         >         before, but
> >         >         >         evidently it is
> >         >         >         > >         still
> >         >         >         > >         there.
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > >         Richard
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >         > Jeremiah
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >         > On May 1, 2015 10:25 AM,
> >         "Richard
> >         >         Shann"
> >         >         >         > >         <[email protected]>
> >         >         >         > >         > wrote:
> >         >         >         > >         >         On Fri, 2015-05-01
> >         at 09:42
> >         >         -0500,
> >         >         >         Jeremiah Benham
> >         >         >         > >         wrote:
> >         >         >         > >         >         > I now have a gub
> >         branch with
> >         >         upgraded
> >         >         >         glib but I
> >         >         >         > >         am stuck on
> >         >         >         > >         >         nsis . I
> >         >         >         > >         >         > could create a zip
> >         version
> >         >         now.
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         That would be
> >         excellent -
> >         >         people can try
> >         >         >         it out
> >         >         >         > >         without
> >         >         >         > >         >         committing
> >         >         >         > >         >         themselves.
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         Is the nsis problem
> >         related to
> >         >         the new
> >         >         >         glib?
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         Richard
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         > Jeremiah
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         > On Apr 29, 2015
> >         8:20 AM,
> >         >         "Jeremiah
> >         >         >         Benham"
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         <[email protected]>
> >         >         wrote:
> >         >         >         > >         >         >         I will
> >         work on it.
> >         >         It may take
> >         >         >         a little
> >         >         >         > >         longer than
> >         >         >         > >         >         I
> >         >         >         > >         >         >         expected.
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >         Jeremiah
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >         On Apr 29,
> >         2015 7:59
> >         >         AM,
> >         >         >         "Richard Shann"
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >          <[email protected]>
> >         >         >         wrote:
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >          This seems
> >         >         to be the
> >         >         >         latest
> >         >         >         > >         version of glib:
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >
> >         >
> >          https://developer.gnome.org/glib/glib-html-2.44.0.tar.gz
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 If
> >         that will
> >         >         work it
> >         >         >         would be our
> >         >         >         > >         best bet
> >         >         >         > >         >         for bug
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >          fixes.
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >          Richard
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 On
> >         Wed,
> >         >         2015-04-29 at
> >         >         >         00:02 -0500,
> >         >         >         > >         Jeremiah
> >         >         >         > >         >         Benham
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >          wrote:
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         I'm
> >         >         getting this
> >         >         >         error when
> >         >         >         > >         trying to
> >         >         >         > >         >         compile for
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         mingw:
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         building
> >         >         package:
> >         >         >         mingw::denemo
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         *** Stage:
> >         >         download
> >         >         >         (denemo,
> >         >         >         > >         mingw)
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         *** Stage:
> >         >         untar
> >         >         >         (denemo, mingw)
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         *** Stage:
> >         >         patch
> >         >         >         (denemo, mingw)
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         *** Stage:
> >         >         >         autoupdate (denemo,
> >         >         >         > >         mingw)
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         *** Stage:
> >         >         configure
> >         >         >         (denemo,
> >         >         >         > >         mingw)
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         *** Stage:
> >         >         compile
> >         >         >         (denemo,
> >         >         >         > >         mingw)
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         Command
> >         >         barfed:
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >
> >         >
> >         cd
> /home/jjbenham/public_html/gub/target/mingw/build/denemo-git.savannah.gnu.org--denemo.git-master
> && make -j16
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         Tail of
> >         >         >         > >         target/mingw/log/denemo.log
> >         >         >         > >         >         >>>>>>>>
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >          make[1]: ***
> >         >         >         [all-recursive]
> >         >         >         > >         Error 1
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >          make[1]: Leaving
> >         >         >         directory
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >
> >         >
> >
>  
> `/home/jjbenham/public_html/gub/target/mingw/build/denemo-git.savannah.gnu.org--denemo.git-master'
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >
> >         >
> >
>  
> libaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-audiointerface.o):audiointerface.c:(.text+0x445):
> undefined reference to `_g_thread_try_new'
>
>  
> libaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-audiointerface.o):audiointerface.c:(.text+0x8c5):
> undefined reference to `_g_cond_wait_until'
>
> libaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-dummybackend.o):dummybackend.c:(.text+0x68):
> undefined reference to
> `_g_cond_wait_untilibaudiobackend.a(libaudiobackend_a-audiointerface.o):audiointerface.c:(.text+0x445):
> undefined reference to `_g_thread_try_new'
>                      @
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         On Apr 28,
> >         >         2015
> >         >         >         12:34 PM,
> >         >         >         > >         "Jeremiah
> >         >         >         > >         >         Benham"
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         <[email protected]>
> >         >         >         > >         wrote:
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >          >         I
> >         >         will do
> >         >         >         that tonight.
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >          Jeremiah
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >          >         On
> >         >         Apr 28,
> >         >         >         2015 7:06 AM,
> >         >         >         > >         "Richard
> >         >         >         > >         >         Shann"
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >          <[email protected]>
> >         wrote:
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >          Jeremiah,
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >                The
> >         >         >         fixes I've
> >         >         >         > >         made for
> >         >         >         > >         >         threading
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >          issues seem to
> >         >         >         > >         be
> >         >         >         > >         >         effective - and I
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >                have
> >         >         >         fixed a
> >         >         >         > >         critical bug
> >         >         >         > >         >         in copy &
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >          paste - I think
> >         >         >         > >         we should
> >         >         >         > >         >         try for a
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >          early release of
> >         >         >         > >         1.2.4.
> >         >         >         > >         >         Are you able
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >                to
> >         >         >         generate
> >         >         >         > >         binaries at
> >         >         >         > >         >         the moment?
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >          Richard
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >                 >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >         >
> >         >         >         > >
> >         >         >         >
> >         >         >         >
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