Hello all,

I agree a UI is nice when you are trying out new dev libraries. Something so you can quickly evaluate if you want to pursue this or not. Having said that, I think it's a terrible off-topic use of time to build a GUI. Derby is a database, and as such should do one thing and do it very well (even if it is a rather large thing to do). I would suggest that we just solicit someone like Aqua Data Studio (http://www.aquafold.com/) to add us to the first-tier list of databases and point users to that. I only suggest Aqua because it was very recently asked about on this list and confirmed to work and does have a personal/educational license. I am sure there are other options I am not aware of with friendlier licensing that could be made to work well with Derby. Or perhaps the Apache DB project should start work on a new GUI outside of the Derby project as part of the maintenance portion of the mission statement.

Just my €0.02

-- Matt Sanford

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Duminda,
I gues lots of ppl will appreaciate if you could develop a GUI for
Derby. Even programmers will apreaciate it. Why should the life of a
programmer be harder? We should promote the usage of good tools. May
be we can have a vote on this?

Regards
Azeez

On 1/27/06, Veaceslav Chicu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
how much non programmers look directly in derby?

derby is a tool for programmers, programmers are users of derby (see
their applications)

users use applications

no need for a derby specific gui, derby expose SQL and jdbc interface,
which are standard

best regards,
Slavic


Andrus Adamchik wrote:
I'd say go with standalone as well. It makes sense because Derby itself
is a database, not a development framework, so there is a good chance
that many potential users of the GUI won't be IDE users at all.

Andrus


On Jan 27, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Manyi Lu wrote:
A GUI for derby is a great idea. I have used SquirreL, but it lacks
some functionality, and it is under LGPL not Apache license.

A stand alone GUI would be better, people tend to use different IDEs.

Manyi


duminda wrote:

Hi,
 What does the community most wanted, Eclipse or Stand alone?.
  Duminda


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Satheesh Bandaram
    To: Derby Discussion
    Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:59 PM
    Subject: Re: Developing a UI for Derby

    Sounds nice. Derby doesn't have its own GUI. This page at Apache
Derby lists several known GUI tools that work with Derby. Are you
thinking of a stand-alone tool or on some framework... like Eclipse?

    http://db.apache.org/derby/integrate/misc.html#Products+by+Type

    Satheesh

    duminda wrote:

    Hi,
         I'm interested in developing a GUI for Derby with Apache
licence.
    Schema browser
    alter table (column/constraint)
    DML (insert/delete/update)
         This will be something like "Toad" to "Oracle".
         Is there any tool already exist?
         Regards!
    Duminda




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Thanks
Afkham Azeez

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